Conflict in Syria

[Jimbuna]

As of now can we leave the Hamas thread to what it was originally intended for and post all of the Syria - related material here.

Thanks in advance.

[Jimbuna]

A Syrian civil defence group has deployed specialist emergency teams to Saydnaya prison following reports that inmates are being detained in underground cells

The White Helmets says, so far, it has "not found any of the secret doors being talked about" - but will continue searching with the help of people "who know the prison's entrances and secret passages"

Efforts are continuing in Syria's capital Damascus to free prisoners after former president Bashar al-Assad's regime was overthrown by rebels on Sunday

Assad, who's now reported to be in Russia where he's been granted asylum, fled after rebel group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) took control of Damascus

[Shadowblade]

Not good news for Europe as this offensive can cause another refugee wave to Europe.

I was quite surprised that Syrian army collapsed so fast under islamist offensive.

[Jimbuna]

Plenty of room here in the UK, we let everyone else in

[Shadowblade]

well, they would mostly go to Germany (until their social system will collapse)

[mapuc]

People is celebrating their freedom in the streets in Syria. I say it is to early, since they don't know what will come after Assad's regime.

I'm convinced that Syria is heading for an even bloodier civil war.

Markus

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm convinced that Syria is heading for an even bloodier civil war.
Markus

I agree, I expect the fight for power between various factions in Syria.

[Skybird]

And so the wheel begins a new revolution...


[FOCUS] In north-eastern Syria, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) continue to fight against the “Islamic State” (IS). Supported by the USA, the SDF also have the Syrian National Army (SNA) as an enemy. The SNA, which is supported by Turkey, has been attacking areas of the autonomous region for days.
Now “Die Welt” reports that the SNA fighters are attacking the city of Manbij with its 100,000 inhabitants. According to the SDF, however, reports about the capture of the city are false. Nevertheless, the situation on the ground is chaotic. According to the “Welt” report, new refugees are arriving in Kamishli every day, many of them of Kurdish origin. And they are already reporting atrocities committed by the SNA. According to a Kurdish family father who also fled, “the SNA have posted severed heads on the streets” to prevent the Kurds from returning.

[Raf1394]

I also fear for a bigger civil war in Syria.

I understand Assad's regime was harsh. But look at Saddam and Kaddafi.
Some countries are held together only with a iron fist...
You can't compare those countries with western countries.
A lot of people in Iraq regret what they did... even in Libya.


Like someone mentioned in Iraq ''we got rid of 1 tyrant, but he got replaced by 1000 tyrants''

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

I also fear for a bigger civil war in Syria.

I understand Assad's regime was harsh. But look at Saddam and Kaddafi.
Some countries are held together only with a iron fist...
You can't compare those countries with western countries.
A lot of people in Iraq regret what they did... even in Libya.


Like someone mentioned in Iraq ''we got rid of 1 tyrant, but he got replaced by 1000 tyrants''

yes, this happens when dictator is removed, country becomes destabilized and fight for power breaks out.

Libya and Iraq are both good examples when it went wrong.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

yes, this happens when dictator is removed, country becomes destabilized and fight for power breaks out.

Libya and Iraq are both good examples when it went wrong.

Not only that-We force our way of living here in the west with our democracy onto them.

Trump have stated on his social media-USA should stay out of it-Does this mean it will be the end of American support to SDF ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The humiliated Assads' new life in Russia with their $2bn fortune

President Assad, his British wife and their three adult children have left behind their Syrian palaces and will begin a new life in Russia after being granted asylum by Vladimir Putin. Asma Al-Assad, a London-born doctor's daughter who married into the brutal autocratic dynasty, has become accustomed to a life of luxury, with reports that she spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on home furnishings and clothes during her husband's reign of terror.

The US state department estimates that the family are worth $2billion, with their wealth concealed in numerous accounts, shell companies, offshore tax havens and real estate portfolios. Now they are likely to draw on their family connections and extensive assets in Moscow in the hope of keeping up their comfortable lifestyle in exile. The Syrian dictator's extended family bought up at least 20 Moscow apartments worth more than £30 million in recent years, illustrating Russia's status as a safe haven for the clan.

The Kremlin today confirmed that the family was given asylum on the direct orders of Putin. Moscow disclosed no further details, with presidential spokesperson Dmitry Peskov telling reporters today: 'We have nothing to say about Assad's whereabouts.' Mrs Assad, who has been battling an aggressive form of leukaemia, is widely believed to have arrived in Moscow with her daughter and two sons days before her husband finally fled Syria. Secret tunnels beneath an Assad family mansion were reportedly uncovered after rebels seized the capital Damascus on Sunday, with the network serving as a possible escape route for the dictator and his allies.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...&ei=16#image=6

[Dargo]

The Military Operations Department in Syria and de facto transitional government announces a general amnesty for all military personnel conscripted under compulsory service. "Their lives are safe and no one may assault them," they add. The loss of its military harbor, airfields in Syria, threatens Russia's influence over African autocrats it seeks to support as its African military supply route would be significantly diminished. Putin's Syria debacle undermines Russia's broader geopolitical goal as a reliable global superpower. The biggest loser is Iran, its route to Lebanon and Yemen is severely hindered.

Raghad al-Tatary, a pilot who refused to bomb the city of Hama during the uprising against Hafez al-Assad in the 1980s, was freed after 43 years; Tal al-Mallouhi, 19 when she was arrested in 2009 for a blog post criticizing state corruption, was found alive. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...assads-prisons

Day 1020 of my 3-day war. It's going so well that NATO, an aggressive alliance that seeks to destroy Russia, has 1 of their members helping me safely leave Syria. I remain a master strategist.

https://bsky.app/profile/darthputink.../3lcvbmxl3rs2k

It's as we all feared. They just discovered a massive pile of bodies in the dungeons of Sednaya prison. Former regime troops seems to have started executing detainees in large numbers as rebels were closing in on Damascus. Between 2011 and 2024, more than 100,000 Syrians, including members of the opposition, were detained without due process in state prisons, of which Saydnaya was the most notorious. Human rights organization Amnesty International has described the prison as a ‘human slaughterhouse’. It is estimated that more than 30,000 prisoners died there between 2011 and 2018 as a result of torture, lack of care and starvation. There were also said to be special ‘salt chambers’ where the bodies of perished prisoners were stored for disposal.

The former prime minister of Syria's Assad regime has agreed to hand over power to his rebel counterpart, outgoing prime minister Mohammad Ghazi Al-Jalali told Al Arabiya TV, according to Reuters. The Syrian rebels shared a video of the leader of the main rebel group HTS, Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, meeting with al-Jalali. The rebels said the meeting was to ‘coordinate the transfer of power in a way that guarantees service to our people in Syria’. The transitional government in Syria will be headed by Mohammed al-Bashir, an engineer who previously worked as an administrator in rebel-held territory. According to Syrian television, the rebels have now appointed him and his main task is to ‘prevent the country from sliding into chaos’. Al-Bashir, from Idlib, was previously a minister in the rebel-held north-western Syria. Earlier this year, he came to lead the government there, which was supported and funded by HTS. Al-Jolani remains the face of HTS as a military leader and is likely to play a major role in setting up a new government.

[mapuc]

Israel have conducted a series of bombing on Syrian air bases-Here they went after Helicopters and fighterjets. They did this because they don't want these to fall into the hands of these rebel groups.

Markus

[Skybird]

The Russioans will not give their bases up silently. Peskov already announced they want to negotiate their status with any follow-up government there may be. This gives the Syrians a very tempting opportunity to drive the costs up and squeeze quite some out of Russia, if they jump over their shadow and consider the Russian request. Its not clear to nom what the new current leader values higher: to itch the West by allowing the Russians to stay and make " fortune" from this, or to appease the West by not allowing and by that maybe inviting Western instead of Russian support. None of the possible outcomes I would call "obvious" at this time.