Can i claim Asylum in another NATO Country?

[Gorpet]

Yes, I would like to know the answer to this question. If i want to leave the United States and move to a NATO member country, can we do it free will.? And if i want to claim asylum, because i think i may be subject to fatal violence created by my own government in the USA. Will you accept me ?

[Catfish]

AFAIK in normal circumstances you are free to travel and visit, however to stay in another country you will mostly need either a working permit or prove you have enough money so the social systems will not have to pay for you.

When you are a legal immigrant looking for asylum the people in check will need a waterproof reason of you being in dire danger, either you are personally threatened (but you have to somehow prove that), or some countries are on a list of being unsecure due to civil war (or latter invasions), so coming from there you will probably be accepted without further proof.
The US does not belong to those. Also think of Julian Assange. Neutrality and acting according to law does not mean much when "they" are really out to get you.

[Skybird]

If you really want to go, go all the way - and to a place that is neither Europe nor G7. Else you just move out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Asylum seeking, as Catfish alreeady explained, will not work for you in Germany, most likely. Official reaosn will be that your claim your government inflicts lethal violence on you is not believable and the US is a civilized law and order state.

[Jimbuna]

Not a cat in hells chance of being accepted by a NATO meber, for the reasons mentioned above but if you're not too choosy you could try thr likes of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea.

Personally I'd stay in the USA

[Moonlight]

Have you thought of a different approach to your Opening Post Gorpet?, get into Europe, France is a must for this to work, get in touch with the small boat smugglers and eventually you'll end up on the shores of the UK.
Just tell the Border Force Officials that you identify as a "black migrant currant" and you'll be given food, clothing, a roof over your head and as many fags and bottles of beer that you can drink.
Then you can claim the "crème de la crème" of excuses and remind them that you're suffering from "Mental Health" problems and you're at risk of an immediate head explosion.
Now get in there with the final "Coup de Grâce" of excuses and start quoting chapter and verse the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights) document, that'll **** em up and you'll be able to stay here forever, you're made for life and you'll never have to work again.

Bollocks!, why didn't I do that in 1997.

[Rockstar]

What it boils down to is a host country’s needs to be sympathetic to your concerns and you need to have something they can use.


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The 10 Best Places To Seek Asylum From The US Government
Brian Jones Jun 11, 2013, 2:08 PM EDT

https://www.businessinsider.com/best...us-2013-6?op=1

If you are Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old who leaked Top Secret information about the NSA, the answer is yes. And you need a sympathetic country to offer you political asylum. Soon.

But where do you turn? Which countries could be willing to flout American interests and take you in?

This list is a careful balance between those countries with strained diplomatic relations with the U.S., or those with a history of welcoming American dissidents, and those places that are most livable (Apologies to North Korea).


10. Hong Kong

Although Snowden’s decision to seek refuge in Hong Kong, a country with a longstanding extradition treaty with the U.S., has been widely criticized, it may be a shrewd attempt to take advantage of a loophole. Hong Kong’s High Court recently ordered a review of the nation’s extradition policy. Until that happens, asylum seekers are allowed to stay in the region indefinitely.

9. Switzerland

With a long history of neutrality and beautiful views of the Alps, Switzerland is a great place to camp out if you’re hiding from the U.S. government. Though the Swiss have an extradition treaty with the U.S., it has a few loopholes and the country has a bit of an independent streak. Just ask Marc Rich, who successfully dodged a federal indictment for tax evasion for years under the protection of the Swiss government.

8. Brazil

While Brazil has an extradition treaty with the U.S., it has bucked American requests for extradition before. One recent example is the case of Claudia Hoerig, who is believed to have murdered her husband in Ohio before fleeing to Brazil. And oh, those beaches.

7. Iran

Iran has not had diplomatic relations with the United States for 30 years, let alone an extradition treaty, and you have to think they’d love to have a high-profile fugitive to taunt their American foes. Accused murderer David Belfield — who converted to Islam and changed his name — has been hiding in plain sight in Iran for decades. The Iranians won’t let anyone touch him.

6. Cape Verde Islands

If Iran was too ... authoritarian regime, the government of the Cape Verde Islands also has no extradition treaty with the United States.The popular European vacation destination off of the coast of West Africa could serve as a beautiful place to hide from the U.S. intelligence network.

5. France

With food, wine, art, France sounds more like a vacation than a hideout. And though it has an extradition treaty with the United States, there are a couple of cases that make France a compelling place to seek asylum. Filmmaker Roman Polanski fled to France rather than face charges of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old in 1977. A French citizen, he was never turned over to American authorities. It even took France years to extradite Ira Einhorn, an American accused murderer, because they feared his rights may have been violated.

4. Venezuela

Though the political situation is subject to change with the death of Hugo Chavez, Venezuela remains a political foe of the United States. The socialist state has a largely cash based economy, so it’s harder to track people. And though the country has an extradition treaty dated back to 1922, it’s hardly actively in effect today, and the U.S. has refused to extradite criminals at the behest of the Venezuelan government in the past.

3. Ecuador

Ecuador has offered safe haven to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange for months, and he remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Given that the country offered Assange asylum when the United Kingdom sought to extradite him to Sweden in a case they had nothing to do with, it’s a safe bet they would consider doing it again.

2. Iceland

Iceland has a long history of embracing dissidents. They offered asylum to U.S. chess champion Bobby Fischer when he was wanted by U.S. authorities for violating sanctions against Yugoslavia. The country also offered to help Julian Assange, though for now he is with the Ecuadorians.

1. Cuba

Cuba is the clear number one choice. A tropical country with beautiful beaches and great food, it is already home to one of the FBI’s Top Ten Most Wanted: Assata Shakur, who is suspected of shooting a police officer and escaping prison in the 70s. Diplomatic relations between the Cubans and Americans have been ice cold for the past 50 years, and there’s little chance they would ever extradite someone to the U.S.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

If i want to leave the United States and move to a NATO member country, can we do it free will.? And if i want to claim asylum, because i think i may be subject to fatal violence created by my own government in the USA. Will you accept me ?

Originally Posted by Rockstar

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https://www.businessinsider.com/best...us-2013-6?op=1

Originally Posted by Gorpet/Ukraine-thred

You believe that these people haven't been given every opportunity to get an education and if they take advantage of having a teacher to teach them. Who the fkns cares if they are white,The rest of the world doesn't mind if white Professors at Harvard or Princeton teach their kids.And these people from these countries have some serious equality problems of their own. Where in the hell are the Catfishes in those countries? Nowhere, They only spout off against the countries they live in. And they damn sure will never leave. Like the young girl that now say's nothing when The real powers of the world aren't listen to her Blah,Blah. About climate change. Where the hell is Greta? Why isn't she telling us how the Russians and Ukraines are destroying mother earth. Damn just the fumes from their cordite and fires and the destruction from artillery shell's will kill the planet
Or is Greta and the rest of her rich family hunkering down and waiting.It will not matter, The countries of NATO led by the smartest minds in Washington DC. Well America and it' Allies have turned into the Borg, Resistance is futile and it's for the Russian people, But not the Chinese they are the hivemind.And they are the Phoenix that rose from the ashes.They are the only country that will not take emigrant's that will change their culture. I'm waiting. And don't come back with Island's that are smaller than Britain.

Gorpet only has to claim Biden tried to rape him in his early gay daze and claim asylum in Russia, while denigrating the US involvement in Ukraine(as he's done elsewhere in the forum) as old Joe"s previous victim, Tara Reade, is doing as I post....No NATO country will take him after reading his 100+ posts in the Ukraine thread!!https://www.newsweek.com/biden-accus...russia-1803459

"I am going to make a request and it's a large one: I'd like to apply for citizenship in Russia from the president of the Russian federation, Vladimir Putin, and hopefully Maria can help me from the State Duma," Reade added, saying she also wants to maintain her U.S. citizenship. "I do promise to be a good citizen and move forward with my life in a positive way. “And from what I could see based on the cases and based on what was happening and sort of the push for them to not want me to testify, I felt that while [the 2024] election is gearing up and there’s so much at stake, I’m almost better off here and just being safe. My dream is to live in both places, but it may be that I only live in this place and that’s OK.”
Biden is running for re-election. As president, he has helped maintain international support for Ukraine as it fights invading Russian forces.
Reade said: “To my Russian brothers and sisters, I’m sorry right now that American elites are choosing to have such an aggressive stance. Just know that most American citizens do want to be friends and hope that we can have unity again.
“I am enjoying my time in Moscow, and I feel very at home.”"

[August]

I'd say your best bet would be to join the French Foreign Legion. They don't care about your background and if you live you'll get French citizenship at the end of your enlistment. AFAIK they might not want to take crazy people though so you'll need to tone it down a bit before you talk to them.

[mapuc]

There's one possibility you haven't been thinking about.

He need to take a trip to Somalia or some other African countries. Where he has to stay some month or even better some years to get a lot of sun tan.
(He shall not tell them he's from the US)

Thereafter he join one of these refugee groups and try to enter Italy, Spain or France. He could also go via Greece-Turkey

Markus

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

I'd say your best bet would be to join the French Foreign Legion. They don't care about your background and if you live you'll get French citizenship at the end of your enlistment. AFAIK they might not want to take crazy people though so you'll need to tone it down a bit before you talk to them.

Hmm and I who thought that they do check your background before letting you in(sign the paper)They should have done this since the beginning of the 70's.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Hmm and I who thought that they do check your background before letting you in(sign the paper)They should have done this since the beginning of the 70's.

Markus

Well sorta. From Wiki:

The legion today

Men between the ages of 17 and 40, of any nationality, may join the legion. Recruits enlist under an assumed name—a requirement known as the anonymat—but a legionnaire may request to serve under his true name after a year of service.

Although the legion shields every legionnaire’s privacy, each prospective recruit is thoroughly interrogated to discover his motivation for joining the legion and to determine whether he has a criminal background. Those who have had minor scrapes with the law are acceptable—even preferred—as they are assumed to be more willing to turn their backs on their former lives and fully integrate into life in the legion; serious criminals, however, are unwelcome.

So i'm not sure if there are background checks beyond interrogation but in any case Gorpet should be good.

[Otto Harkaman]

You could join the Wagner Group in the Sudan

[Reece]

Can i claim Asylum in another NATO Country?

Why? there should be an asylum in your own country!

[Catfish]

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I'm not certain if I found asylum, where I'm at. However, I know I'm not allowed anything sharp to write with.