Realistic manual tdc and torpedo solutions

[Wolfcat]

I am mostly from sh3/sh5 uboat background where I can use many wheels and disks (roafb and attack disk) to figure out inputs for torpedo solution. It seems American boats don’t use these tools. How American skippers figure out aob etc? I like to play with no map updates so you won’t see red enemy mark on map for u to figure out the aob.

[dashyr]

Their TDC makes it extremely easy to eyeball. Unless you go for longshots.

It's kind of like a bird eye view.

[Wolfcat]

So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?

[Fifi]

AOB is quite easy to visualize and estimate just by looking.
With some practice, it should become like riding a bicycle !
RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5), but for info, RAOBF wheel was not used in WW2 by Germans...only in WW1 of what I’ve readed.
Attack disc were probably used instead.
US side, i don’t know...but i don’t think they used RAOBF wheels either.
Correct me if I’m wrong

[dashyr]

Originally Posted by Wolfcat

So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?

I wouldn't say that. It's just that, from gameplay mechanics side of things, the U-Boat Missions recieved more love.

[AutoSetup]

USA used Torpedo Data Computer, which could track target and do all the working for a solution and is modelled in SH4.


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[Wolfcat]

Originally Posted by Fifi

RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5),

I am using FORS mod for sh4. But I don’t see those things in there. FORS doesn’t have them?

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Wolfcat

I am using FORS mod for sh4. But I don’t see those things in there. FORS doesn’t have them?

If you don’t see it in FOTRSU, that’s certainly cause US subs didn’t use it

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by Fifi

AOB is quite easy to visualize and estimate just by looking.
With some practice, it should become like riding a bicycle !
RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5), but for info, RAOBF wheel was not used in WW2 by Germans...only in WW1 of what I’ve readed.
Attack disc were probably used instead.
US side, i don’t know...but i don’t think they used RAOBF wheels either.
Correct me if I’m wrong

IIRC most U-Boat commanders used the so-called Ausdampfverfahren or the Auswanderungsverfahren from the 1930 Torpedo shooting manual of the Kriegsmarine.
Ausdampfverfahren:




Auswanderungsverfahren:

Originally Posted by Wolfcat

So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?

No, it just really easy to eyeball your target angle/angle on bow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_angle