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Wolfcat 01-27-20 09:07 AM

Realistic manual tdc and torpedo solutions
 
I am mostly from sh3/sh5 uboat background where I can use many wheels and disks (roafb and attack disk) to figure out inputs for torpedo solution. It seems American boats don’t use these tools. How American skippers figure out aob etc? I like to play with no map updates so you won’t see red enemy mark on map for u to figure out the aob.

dashyr 01-27-20 09:25 AM

Their TDC makes it extremely easy to eyeball. Unless you go for longshots.

It's kind of like a bird eye view.

Wolfcat 01-27-20 10:08 AM

So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?

Fifi 01-27-20 10:15 AM

AOB is quite easy to visualize and estimate just by looking.
With some practice, it should become like riding a bicycle !
RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5), but for info, RAOBF wheel was not used in WW2 by Germans...only in WW1 of what I’ve readed.
Attack disc were probably used instead.
US side, i don’t know...but i don’t think they used RAOBF wheels either.
Correct me if I’m wrong :salute:

dashyr 01-27-20 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfcat (Post 2646488)
So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?

I wouldn't say that. It's just that, from gameplay mechanics side of things, the U-Boat Missions recieved more love.

AutoSetup 01-27-20 11:14 AM

USA used Torpedo Data Computer, which could track target and do all the working for a solution and is modelled in SH4.


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Wolfcat 01-27-20 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2646489)
RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5),

I am using FORS mod for sh4. But I don’t see those things in there. FORS doesn’t have them?

Fifi 01-27-20 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfcat (Post 2646502)
I am using FORS mod for sh4. But I don’t see those things in there. FORS doesn’t have them?

If you don’t see it in FOTRSU, that’s certainly cause US subs didn’t use it :yep:

Kongo Otto 01-28-20 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2646489)
AOB is quite easy to visualize and estimate just by looking.
With some practice, it should become like riding a bicycle !
RAOBF and stuff is existing in most mega mods (SH3/4/5), but for info, RAOBF wheel was not used in WW2 by Germans...only in WW1 of what I’ve readed.
Attack disc were probably used instead.
US side, i don’t know...but i don’t think they used RAOBF wheels either.
Correct me if I’m wrong :salute:


IIRC most U-Boat commanders used the so-called Ausdampfverfahren or the Auswanderungsverfahren from the 1930 Torpedo shooting manual of the Kriegsmarine.
Ausdampfverfahren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc42omH5iio


Auswanderungsverfahren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pylYxlBkgfk




Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfcat (Post 2646488)
So, compared to Sh5 and some modded sh3, Sh4 is kinda arcadish and less simulation like?


No, it just really easy to eyeball your target angle/angle on bow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_angle


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