They are coming home!

eddie · 10-26-14, 03:07 PM

Finally, the last British combat troops and US Marines are coming home from Afghanistan!! Its about stinking time too!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ase/ar-BBbgkxr

Oberon · 10-26-14, 03:17 PM

If I were them I wouldn't get too comfy, they'll either be back in Afghanistan or Iraq before 2020...

eddie · 10-26-14, 03:31 PM

We got to be happy they are they are getting out of there, they deserve to be home, away from that hole for a while!

fireftr18 · 10-26-14, 03:35 PM

Oberon · 10-26-14, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

We got to be happy they are they are getting out of there, they deserve to be home, away from that hole for a while!

I am glad they're coming back, but this is our...what, third or fourth venture in the graveyard of empires, and with the current situation in Iraq, I'm not confident in our likelihood of avoiding another ground war in the Middle East.

Schroeder · 10-26-14, 05:02 PM

The problem I have with leaving that place is that it makes the sacrifices of all the soldiers there in vain. It will have been for nothing and that's what bugs me. It's like Iraq. The politicians will just call it "job done" and then everything our troops suffered for will go to hell in no time.
Not sure though whether staying longer would actually help to build up a proper nation.

BrucePartington · 10-26-14, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

The problem I have with leaving that place is that it makes the sacrifices of all the soldiers there in vain. It will have been for nothing and that's what bugs me. It's like Iraq. The politicians will just call it "job done" and then everything our troops suffered for will go to hell in no time.
Not sure though whether staying longer would actually help to build up a proper nation.

I believe General George S. Patton said something along the lines of "Politicians always stop us short, leaving us with another war to fight."
Not that I condone war, mind you.

Oberon · 10-26-14, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

The problem I have with leaving that place is that it makes the sacrifices of all the soldiers there in vain. It will have been for nothing and that's what bugs me. It's like Iraq. The politicians will just call it "job done" and then everything our troops suffered for will go to hell in no time.
Not sure though whether staying longer would actually help to build up a proper nation.

Catch-22. Their departure is not going to do anything for local stability, but domestic, foreign and local opinion is strongly against the continuation of ground operations by western forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Damned if they do, Damned if they don't.

Platapus · 10-27-14, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

The problem I have with leaving that place is that it makes the sacrifices of all the soldiers there in vain. It will have been for nothing and that's what bugs me.

But would sacrificing more military make their sacrifices any less in vain?

We never had a clear measurable and obtainable objective in the AF conflict.

I hope the world learned what the British, the Soviets, and now the Americans have learned the hard way - stay out of AF.

Armistead · 10-26-14, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

If I were them I wouldn't get too comfy, they'll either be back in Afghanistan or Iraq before 2020...

Yea, I thought we worked it where US troops would be staying. Either way, someone will be going back...

Skybird · 10-26-14, 04:06 PM

Damned if you go in, damned if you stay out. Damned if you stay, damned if you leave.

Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

eddie · 10-27-14, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Yea, I thought we worked it where US troops would be staying. Either way, someone will be going back...

You're correct, nearly 10,000 US troops will still be there for another year yet, along with some Special Forces, who will work with the Afghan Army. If the new President of Afghanistan doesn't gut the Afghan Army like that piece of crap Maliki did with the Iraqi Army, maybe they will have a better chance of protecting themselves. One could only hope I guess.

em2nought · 10-26-14, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

If I were them I wouldn't get too comfy, they'll either be back in Afghanistan or Iraq before 2020...

Better yet Liberia! Somebody has to bring Ebola here to make everybody equal.

STEED · 10-28-14, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

If I were them I wouldn't get too comfy, they'll either be back in Afghanistan or Iraq before 2020...

I have a bad feeling your spot there Oberon.

Catfish · 10-28-14, 07:01 AM

Imagine there's a war, and no one comes.

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