I'm the traitor!?

acemczero · 10-08-13, 04:29 PM

So returning from my first patrol, I was just about to pull into Kiel when I was attacked by several German ships. Long story short, they pretty much ambushed me and I had no shot, being in port waters and all. When my career results screen popped up, the two ships I'd sunk on patrol (British and French) were tallied under Axis tonnage.

Um...

This was in 12/1939, using SH3 Commander 3.2 and GWX 3.0. Last time I played this game, I never had this bug happen to me. Any idea what happened?

biosthetique · 10-08-13, 04:41 PM

Don't sink French but Free French!...Not the same!....Distinctions have to be made.

Look in the museum to recognize the 2 different flags and the ships available under the different flags!

Cybermat47 · 10-08-13, 05:18 PM

Oh my god, I didn't know that could happen!

You poor guy.

BigWalleye · 10-08-13, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosthetique

Don't sink French but Free French!...Not the same!....Distinctions have to be made.

Look in the museum to recognize the 2 different flags and the ships available under the different flags!

If acemzero's date is correct, I don't think that's the problem. In December, 1939, there are only French, and they are at war with Germany. Have sunk quite a few and BdU likes it when I do.

But what an awful turn of events! Sunk by the KM while returning home! Sounds like you have a corrupt installation somehow!

desertstriker · 10-08-13, 08:38 PM

I hate to be this guy but are you sure you identified the nationality correct? there are some flags that can be similar/confusing and easily misidentified in low light situations.

Edit after reviewing the flags none of them would cause the issue you are experiencing short of btritan being mistaken as germany's. another thought comes to mind... wrong date because sinking ships before 9/01/1939 and GWX will start you at 8/01/1939. though with commander you can start in December i don't know what the issue could be short of screen shots a few things.

acemczero · 10-08-13, 09:10 PM

Yea I external view all my kills (so pretty) and even though it was dark out, blue-white-red is definitely French. I also consult the flag chart while I wait and it says " France (AL) 09-39". Bdu even offered me a round when I got home...not the round I was expecting. I was cruising topside and thinking "those two tugboats sure are far out to sea" and viewing them off to port with my binoculars when I heard the "ZING!" of bullets off my hull and the view started shaking. A KM gunboat had flanked me on the right. I dove to periscope depth but by then the flooding had started and I wound up skidding along the seafloor (bout 20m deep) and wrecking the whole bottom of my boat. Blew ballast and died at a 45 degree angle with my bow stuck in the sand. It was actually gutwrenching. Also, these (the ships I sank) were merchants flying war flags (not the maritime variations). It might just be a bad install. Such a wonderful first patrol back from retirement and this happens. The British sinking, I kinda cheated a bit. It was dark and I'd already let a Norwegian merchant go (a big juicy cargo ship), so I external'd my next encounter and sure enough, it was a big red flag with the Union Jack in the corner. So I'm 101% certain I sank Allied vessels.

acemczero · 10-09-13, 01:12 AM

Ok, so my mod list in JSGME is:

GWX- 16k atmosphere
-Ehanced Damage Effects
-Open Hatch Mod
-Merged Campaign
-Main Movie 'Das Boot' (which doesn't seem to work)
-English Nav Map and Grid Refs (Map's still in German, something's wrong here)
-Axis Med Aircraft Skins
-Integrated Orders
-Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
-VIIC41 Player Sub
ManosEnvironmentPro v4.2
The MaGui mod (final)
TMT v2 with EFS (GWX3 version)

I'm just getting back into the game after 3 years and getting a new computer. So I'm not nearly as proficient as I was back then when my game was nearly issue free. Now though...

In SH3 Commander, I tried to take the IX in sub select but started with the IIa.
Sinking allied shipping resulted in axis tonnage.
The game CTD'd the first time I tried to sail through the canal from Kiel to Wilhemshaven, though it went smooth the 2nd time.
When I went the long way to get back to Kiel, I was methodically executed by two German tugboats and a small gun boat that popped up out of nowhere. This happening not 20 km from when I expected the "dock at port" popup.

Also, I know I can do it in SH4 and maybe I just don't remember taking damage in SH3 back then, but when my bow torpedo room started flooding, I had no option to prioritize repairs, and everything else was getting repaired while I sat on the seafloor. Ended up dying with my ass hangin' out of the water. Quite hilarious.

But yea, I probably installed the mods incorrectly where I would've done fine 3 years ago. Especially GWX, it just didn't look right to me...I guess I'm back to being a noob, and it cost me my career.

10-08-13, 04:29 PM	#1
acemczero Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	I'm the traitor!? So returning from my first patrol, I was just about to pull into Kiel when I was attacked by several German ships. Long story short, they pretty much ambushed me and I had no shot, being in port waters and all. When my career results screen popped up, the two ships I'd sunk on patrol (British and French) were tallied under Axis tonnage. Um... This was in 12/1939, using SH3 Commander 3.2 and GWX 3.0. Last time I played this game, I never had this bug happen to me. Any idea what happened?

10-08-13, 05:18 PM	#3
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Oh my god, I didn't know that could happen! You poor guy. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

10-08-13, 08:38 PM	#5
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	I hate to be this guy but are you sure you identified the nationality correct? there are some flags that can be similar/confusing and easily misidentified in low light situations. Edit after reviewing the flags none of them would cause the issue you are experiencing short of btritan being mistaken as germany's. another thought comes to mind... wrong date because sinking ships before 9/01/1939 and GWX will start you at 8/01/1939. though with commander you can start in December i don't know what the issue could be short of screen shots a few things. Last edited by desertstriker; 10-08-13 at 09:09 PM.

10-08-13, 09:10 PM	#6
acemczero Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	Yea I external view all my kills (so pretty) and even though it was dark out, blue-white-red is definitely French. I also consult the flag chart while I wait and it says " France (AL) 09-39". Bdu even offered me a round when I got home...not the round I was expecting. I was cruising topside and thinking "those two tugboats sure are far out to sea" and viewing them off to port with my binoculars when I heard the "ZING!" of bullets off my hull and the view started shaking. A KM gunboat had flanked me on the right. I dove to periscope depth but by then the flooding had started and I wound up skidding along the seafloor (bout 20m deep) and wrecking the whole bottom of my boat. Blew ballast and died at a 45 degree angle with my bow stuck in the sand. It was actually gutwrenching. Also, these (the ships I sank) were merchants flying war flags (not the maritime variations). It might just be a bad install. Such a wonderful first patrol back from retirement and this happens. The British sinking, I kinda cheated a bit. It was dark and I'd already let a Norwegian merchant go (a big juicy cargo ship), so I external'd my next encounter and sure enough, it was a big red flag with the Union Jack in the corner. So I'm 101% certain I sank Allied vessels. Last edited by acemczero; 10-09-13 at 02:45 AM.

10-08-13, 04:41 PM	#2
biosthetique Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SD Posts: 266 Downloads: 652 Uploads: 0	Don't sink French but Free French!...Not the same!....Distinctions have to be made. Look in the museum to recognize the 2 different flags and the ships available under the different flags!

10-09-13, 01:12 AM	#7
acemczero Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	Ok, so my mod list in JSGME is: GWX- 16k atmosphere -Ehanced Damage Effects -Open Hatch Mod -Merged Campaign -Main Movie 'Das Boot' (which doesn't seem to work) -English Nav Map and Grid Refs (Map's still in German, something's wrong here) -Axis Med Aircraft Skins -Integrated Orders -Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas -VIIC41 Player Sub ManosEnvironmentPro v4.2 The MaGui mod (final) TMT v2 with EFS (GWX3 version) I'm just getting back into the game after 3 years and getting a new computer. So I'm not nearly as proficient as I was back then when my game was nearly issue free. Now though... In SH3 Commander, I tried to take the IX in sub select but started with the IIa. Sinking allied shipping resulted in axis tonnage. The game CTD'd the first time I tried to sail through the canal from Kiel to Wilhemshaven, though it went smooth the 2nd time. When I went the long way to get back to Kiel, I was methodically executed by two German tugboats and a small gun boat that popped up out of nowhere. This happening not 20 km from when I expected the "dock at port" popup. Also, I know I can do it in SH4 and maybe I just don't remember taking damage in SH3 back then, but when my bow torpedo room started flooding, I had no option to prioritize repairs, and everything else was getting repaired while I sat on the seafloor. Ended up dying with my ass hangin' out of the water. Quite hilarious. But yea, I probably installed the mods incorrectly where I would've done fine 3 years ago. Especially GWX, it just didn't look right to me...I guess I'm back to being a noob, and it cost me my career.