End war on drugs, says police chief

Jimbuna · 09-29-13, 01:20 PM

I'm not sure I agree with his opinion and a Chief Constable at that

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Class A drugs should be decriminalised and drug addicts "treated and cared for not criminalised", according to a senior UK police officer.
Writing in the Observer, Chief Constable Mike Barton of Durham Police said prohibition had put billions of pounds into the hands of criminals.
He called for an open debate on the problems caused by drugs.
The Home Office reiterated its stance and said drugs were illegal because they were dangerous.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24320717

Catfish · 09-29-13, 03:51 PM

Did not read the link, but:

The second you allow or at least decriminalise drugs, or let the government sell them cheap tothe addicts, you have
a) control and
b) not much pushers, dealers and the whole scum left.

Also, most alcoholic strong drinks are much worse than even 'hard' drugs of the other kind.

Sailor Steve · 09-29-13, 07:18 PM

Good for him!

Armistead · 09-29-13, 11:00 PM

I think it's a shame and a scam that pot is criminal. I don't smoke it and probably never will again, but alcohol is certainly much dangerous. Like it or not, the poorer people that do drugs are the ones the police arrest.

Wolferz · 09-30-13, 08:12 AM

The entire war on drugs has been a scam to collect people as slave labor in the prison industrial complex and to bleed people dry of their money, homes and cars. Legalized theft by the government so to speak. All to aid the real criminals (Skull and Bones) who traffic Opium and its derivatives worldwide.
The reason for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan possibly?

Any prohibition does only one thing... It creates a black market for thugs and scum. You'd think they would've learned from the big booze debacle that didn't work.

The government also fights dirty in these so called wars. From poisoning denatured alcohol back in the day to spraying Paraquat and supplying guns to drug cartels today.

STEED · 09-30-13, 08:55 AM

War on drugs was losted on day one.

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 09:26 AM

I think they should legalize everything. No, not really. The question is, when will it stop. Today weed is legal. Tomorrow heroin is legal.

09-30-13, 09:39 AM

Legalize, Educate, and Tax.

As long as your not a detriment to society and the people within then you should be free to use whatever substance you want. (Though the problem with some harder drugs is that you usually end up being a detriment to society and the people around you when you get addicted to them)

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

As long as your not a detriment to society and the people within then you should be free to use whatever substance you want. (Though the problem with some harder drugs is that you usually end up being a detriment to society and the people around you when you get addicted to them)

Exactly!

Jimbuna · 09-30-13, 10:01 AM

I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society.

Long may the ban live on.

STEED · 09-30-13, 10:29 AM

Ban sugar that kills millions every year.

A interesting point I heard the other day.

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society.

Long may the ban live on.

Agreed. Like I asked, when will it stop? Today weed, tomorrow heroin. On it goes.

Sailor Steve · 09-30-13, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Agreed. Like I asked, when will it stop? Today weed, tomorrow heroin. On it goes.

So let's outlaw booze again, for the same reasons.

Jimbuna · 09-30-13, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

So let's outlaw booze again, for the same reasons.

Don't you dare...torture is outlawed in western countries

Wolferz · 09-30-13, 01:27 PM

There are many dangerous things in the world. Should we make them all contraband and just cower in our homes until we die of starvation?

Too much of anything will kill you.
If a person wishes to do drugs in moderation then that should be their choice. Not the will of a bunch of holier than thou hypocrites who smoke big old Cuban cigars while they sip their whisky sours and drive home drunk on the capitol beltway.

Their laws have done very little to curb the appetites for these substances. They have done nothing more than finish ruining the lives of those who allowed them to rule their life. They have even gone so far as to prime the pump, so to speak, with the DARE programs in the elementary schools. Drug Access Really Easy kids. Just look in mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet. The worst drug pushers on the planet advertise on TV and you can see their agents every time you go to the doctor.
George Carlin said it best... We're a drug oriented society. Head hurts? Two in the mouth. These are orange kids. The other colors come later.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I think it's a shame and a scam that pot is criminal. I don't smoke it and probably never will again, but alcohol is certainly much dangerous. Like it or not, the poorer people that do drugs are the ones the police arrest. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	The entire war on drugs has been a scam to collect people as slave labor in the prison industrial complex and to bleed people dry of their money, homes and cars. Legalized theft by the government so to speak. All to aid the real criminals (Skull and Bones) who traffic Opium and its derivatives worldwide. The reason for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan possibly? Any prohibition does only one thing... It creates a black market for thugs and scum. You'd think they would've learned from the big booze debacle that didn't work. The government also fights dirty in these so called wars. From poisoning denatured alcohol back in the day to spraying Paraquat and supplying guns to drug cartels today. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	War on drugs was losted on day one. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I think they should legalize everything. No, not really. The question is, when will it stop. Today weed is legal. Tomorrow heroin is legal. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Did not read the link, but: The second you allow or at least decriminalise drugs, or let the government sell them cheap tothe addicts, you have a) control and b) not much pushers, dealers and the whole scum left. Also, most alcoholic strong drinks are much worse than even 'hard' drugs of the other kind.

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Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Legalize, Educate, and Tax. As long as your not a detriment to society and the people within then you should be free to use whatever substance you want. (Though the problem with some harder drugs is that you usually end up being a detriment to society and the people around you when you get addicted to them)

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society. Long may the ban live on. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Ban sugar that kills millions every year. A interesting point I heard the other day. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	There are many dangerous things in the world. Should we make them all contraband and just cower in our homes until we die of starvation? Too much of anything will kill you. If a person wishes to do drugs in moderation then that should be their choice. Not the will of a bunch of holier than thou hypocrites who smoke big old Cuban cigars while they sip their whisky sours and drive home drunk on the capitol beltway. Their laws have done very little to curb the appetites for these substances. They have done nothing more than finish ruining the lives of those who allowed them to rule their life. They have even gone so far as to prime the pump, so to speak, with the DARE programs in the elementary schools. Drug Access Really Easy kids. Just look in mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet. The worst drug pushers on the planet advertise on TV and you can see their agents every time you go to the doctor. George Carlin said it best... We're a drug oriented society. Head hurts? Two in the mouth. These are orange kids. The other colors come later. __________________ Tomorrow never comes Last edited by Wolferz; 09-30-13 at 01:42 PM.