Silent 3ditor and .off files issue

Feuer Frei! · 08-07-13, 05:03 AM

Fellow Patriots.

I would like to know if there is a work-around for the following issue:

Out of the 2 threads i found regarding this issue, neither 1 addressed a fix or solution for it.
I am wanting to create new fonts to place into game(s) and it's impossible at the moment without this feature working.

Thank you in advance.

Feuer Frei! · 08-07-13, 09:32 PM

Any ideas\fixes\suggestions?

Cybermat47 · 08-07-13, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Fellow Patriots.

What country do you live in again? If it's not Australia, then I can't help you.

Cybermat47 · 08-07-13, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by terryn

You guys Down Under never did take up arms against this tyranny, did you?

Actually, we did. And you were there with us.

Cybermat47 · 08-07-13, 10:20 PM

When I get home I'll see if something similar happens to me, Feur Frei. If this is for a mod, I look forward to it

Feuer Frei! · 08-08-13, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

When I get home I'll see if something similar happens to me, Feur Frei. If this is for a mod, I look forward to it

Cheers. I'd appreciate that.

blueduck · 08-08-13, 06:31 AM

Hello mates,

it is the same result here - opening .off in S3D shows a black screen.

You will have to open the .tga with Gimp, PS or something else.
The .off just gives you the coordinates for each letter.

You will have to replace the characters in the .tga and maybe adjust the coordinates in the .off.

Regards
Blueduck

Feuer Frei! · 08-08-13, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blueduck

Hello mates,

it is the same result here - opening .off in S3D shows a black screen.

You will have to open the .tga with Gimp, PS or something else.
The .off just gives you the coordinates for each letter.

You will have to replace the characters in the .tga and maybe adjust the coordinates in the .off.

Regards
Blueduck

Hi.

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't silent 3ditor the only way to 'align' the fonts in the tga, via the off file?

Case in point:

i have a tga file with the new font saved, ready to import.
However, no alignment is possible for this new font due to the black screen.

The creation of a off file is possible however the font, once imported into game is never alligned properly and ie renders it useless.

You suggest replacing the font.

But this still leaves me unable to use the font.

Viewing of the font via the off file is vital (i would assume). To allign font correctly so that game can place text properly.

W/o the view, no new font can be alligned!?

NOTE: skwasjer when posting his tut on font creation used silent 3ditor v0.9 and admitted that it contained 2 bugs that "made it nearly impossible to create new off files from scratch".
He assured us that the 2 bugs would be fixed in v0.9.1.

That begs the question:

would an older version of silent 3ditor, ie v0.9 or 0.8.1 work?

(older versions are not available unless requested from its home page)
Is it possible to obtain an older version? Specifically v0.9, or 0.9.1?

skwasjer was able to show font in off file in silent 3ditor v0.9.

SquareSteelBar · 08-08-13, 12:06 PM

No probs with v0.99 here:

Did you consider that both .off and .tga files must be in the same folder?

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Feuer Frei! · 08-09-13, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SquareSteelBar

No probs with v0.99 here:
Did you consider that both .off and .tga files must be in the same folder?

Absolutely.

I created a dds with new font, placed it into a folder, and fired up silent 3ditor, created a new off file, immediately saved it to same folder as dds, ensuring off has exact same name as dds.....and still black screen!

Anvart · 08-09-13, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SquareSteelBar

No probs with v0.99 here:
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Hi, SSB.
What kind of video do you have?

SquareSteelBar · 08-09-13, 03:25 AM

You mean the video card?

nVidia GeForce GTS 450

SquareSteelBar · 08-09-13, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

...I created a dds with new font, placed it into a folder, and fired up silent 3ditor, created a new off file, immediately saved it to same folder as dds, ensuring off has exact same name as dds.....and still black screen!...

What happens when you open an existing [genuine] font of SH3 in S3D?
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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei

...i have a tga file with the new font saved, ready to import.
However, no alignment is possible for this new font due to the black screen...

Did you save the font in alpha channel?

Feuer Frei! · 08-09-13, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SquareSteelBar

What happens when you open an existing [genuine] font of SH3 in S3D?

No SH3 on pc, but no go on sh5.
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Did you save the font in alpha channel?

Pretty sure i did.

Did you get my pm?

Feuer Frei! · 08-10-13, 09:26 PM

So no-one has a solution to this?

@SquareSteelBar:

did you get my pm?
Are you able to open my font incl. in file?

Surely there has been members (who are still on these forums) who have changed fonts and more importantly, alligned the fonts with silent 3ditor?

Can i suggest to someone willing and free of a couple of minutes to send them my tga and off file for perusal on their s3ditor to see if it's a issue on my end?

Would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

08-07-13, 05:03 AM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Silent 3ditor and .off files issue Fellow Patriots. I would like to know if there is a work-around for the following issue: Out of the 2 threads i found regarding this issue, neither 1 addressed a fix or solution for it. I am wanting to create new fonts to place into game(s) and it's impossible at the moment without this feature working. Thank you in advance. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

08-07-13, 09:32 PM	#2
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Any ideas\fixes\suggestions? __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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08-08-13, 06:31 AM	#7
blueduck Commander Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: LSH3-DEV-Team, Germany Posts: 444 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Hello mates, it is the same result here - opening .off in S3D shows a black screen. You will have to open the .tga with Gimp, PS or something else. The .off just gives you the coordinates for each letter. You will have to replace the characters in the .tga and maybe adjust the coordinates in the .off. Regards Blueduck __________________ » Living Silent Hunter III - Download - Game, Mods, Tools, Infos...

08-08-13, 12:06 PM	#9
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	No probs with v0.99 here: Did you consider that both .off and .tga files must be in the same folder? . Last edited by SquareSteelBar; 08-08-13 at 12:44 PM.

08-09-13, 03:25 AM	#12
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	You mean the video card? nVidia GeForce GTS 450

08-10-13, 09:26 PM	#15
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	So no-one has a solution to this? @SquareSteelBar: did you get my pm? Are you able to open my font incl. in file? Surely there has been members (who are still on these forums) who have changed fonts and more importantly, alligned the fonts with silent 3ditor? Can i suggest to someone willing and free of a couple of minutes to send them my tga and off file for perusal on their s3ditor to see if it's a issue on my end? Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS