Censorship

[Bubblehead1980]

I see that the Zimmerman thread has been locked up.Stop censoring the forums, so what if it gets heated? that is the nature of the beast.

[Stealhead]

Nothing got censored and beyond that people where violating the forum rules.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

that is the nature of the beast.

Jim isn't a beast. He's a British ex-policeman most famous for his contribution on Grey Wolves Expansion, an unofficial add-on for Ubisoft's 2005 title Silent Hunter III. He also serves as a moderator for the SubSim forums, which were founded in January of 1997 by a Texan named Neal Stevens.

Is it clear now?

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Jim isn't a beast

You've clearly not met him.

[BrucePartington]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Jim isn't a beast. He's a British ex-policeman most famous for his contribution on Grey Wolves Expansion, an unofficial add-on for Ubisoft's 2005 title Silent Hunter III. He also serves as a moderator for the SubSim forums, which were founded in January of 1997 by a Texan named Neal Stevens.

Is it clear now?

To me it came across as BH wasn't referring to Jim, but rather human nature in general. As in it's human nature to sometimes engage in heated debate.
Peace

[Sailor Steve]

"The nature of the beast" is an old saying, meaning "that's the way it is". In this case Bubblehead is referring to the fact that GT topics sometimes get heated. I don't agree though. We have certain standards we try to adhere to, even in GT. It's gotten to the point in that thread where people are repeating the same things over. Nothing new is being added except for more insults.

If Neal decides to open it up again, then it opens. If not it remains locked. End of story.

[Onkel Neal]

It's not censorship to pause a discussion when its getting too rowdy, is it?

[yubba]

.The liberals thought they were so smart by putting 6 women on a self defence jury after running around the country and saying women should puke or pee themselves to defend against rape.... And can anybody tell me how many police states have Subsim. com or facebook. I must apologize for leaving the gates to hell open, I didn't know that copying off my facebook page left an open link to Uncle Sams MisGuided, like I said there's alot more people more farther right than I, and by the looks, better armed. I always wondered what a banana republic looked like,, didn't expect to live in one,..

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Jim isn't a beast. He's a British ex-policeman most famous for his contribution on Grey Wolves Expansion, an unofficial add-on for Ubisoft's 2005 title Silent Hunter III. He also serves as a moderator for the SubSim forums, which were founded in January of 1997 by a Texan named Neal Stevens.

Is it clear now?

Jim is not a bad guy. I'll +1 that.

Originally Posted by TarJak

You've clearly not met him.

He likes to joke but I like him. He's a nice guy.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

It's not censorship to pause a discussion when its getting too rowdy, is it?

Another +1 here.

[Bubblehead1980]

Yes, I was referring to nature of debates concerning controversial issues, not Jim. I have seen a few threads get locked up because it gets heated, shutting down a debate helps no one, that was the point of op.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes, I was referring to nature of debates concerning controversial issues, not Jim. I have seen a few threads get locked up because it gets heated, shutting down a debate helps no one, that was the point of op.

I've seen threads locked down over my time here.

Usually, it's a good thing when threads are locked down during a heated discussion.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes, I was referring to nature of debates concerning controversial issues, not Jim. I have seen a few threads get locked up because it gets heated, shutting down a debate helps no one, that was the point of op.

Uhm, actually it does. It is called moderation and prevents that people fight each other instead of discussing the actual topic.
The thread, about the Zimmerman case, went down fast and hard. All "sides" said what they had to say, opinions are very well known. At that point, simple discussions can quickly turn into personal fights - perfect time to lock it up.

[Wolferz]

The JAG has ruled. Leave it at that.

[Oberon]

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Uhm, actually it does. It is called moderation and prevents that people fight each other instead of discussing the actual topic.
The thread, about the Zimmerman case, went down fast and hard. All "sides" said what they had to say, opinions are very well known. At that point, simple discussions can quickly turn into personal fights - perfect time to lock it up.

Well said.