Destroyers destroying themselves (Or something like that)

V13dweller · 03-31-13, 04:12 AM

i have been trying to test a scenario using the type type 1936N destroyer, I have added some extra depth charge throwers, two pairs in the middle, and one pair at the front, and now the destroyers seem to just randomly explode, some survive, some just blow into 2 pieces, they are just exploding on the water, and this is ruining my tests on the hydrophones and Sonars.

Could anyone help me with this?

Edit, I think It might be caused by the blast radius of the Basic depth charge being too large, is there any way to reduce this enough that destroyers are not blowing themselves up?
Edit again, I believe that I have solved it myself.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Third Edit, It was that the Standard Depth charge has an explosion radius of 60, and the Kguns have a minimum throwing distance of 50 meters.

If people want this fix, I might upload it as a mod, it increases the Standard Kguns range to 60 meters.

a17tares · 04-23-13, 08:13 AM

I would be very interested in a fix because I'm experiencing the same problem. Alternatively I'd like to know which file I need to edit. In the FX Tutorial mission, I just need to dive to 30 meters and the two warships are practically sinking themselves with their own depth charges.

Fifi · 04-23-13, 03:30 PM

Very annoying issue

Maybe that's because they don't accelerate enough when dropping, and some destroyers are too close from each others when dropping too...

V13dweller · 04-24-13, 12:41 AM

I fixed the problem quite a while ago, I reduced the blast radius from 60 down to 50, because the minimum throw distance is 50 meters, and if you want, I could upload this little fix for you.

Fifi · 04-24-13, 12:48 AM

Sure, V13!

V13dweller · 04-24-13, 01:15 AM

I used the Default SH5 Depth charge radius, which is 40 meters, but this is for the safety of the ships, because small and slow ship like the flower corvette may be cruising at a low speed, and attempt to attack a sub that is close on it's port side, then fire it's Kgun and it might not be able to escape, especially if it was turning into the target to bomb them with the DC racks. If you object, or want it increased, just let me know. http://www.mediafire.com/?e2zc89jrmdkd8wk

Fifi · 04-24-13, 02:33 AM

Forgot to ask: compatible with all other mods, if i activate it at the end of list?

EDIT: ahh...just opened it and it's not JSGME ready!
Where do those files go?

V13dweller · 04-24-13, 03:14 AM

Just put them in the SH5 Data Library, Im not sure how to make files JSGME ready.

Fifi · 04-24-13, 04:01 AM

Ok, thanks.
For JSGME, have to create a folder "whatever name" with a data folder inside, then a library folder and your files in it.
Then activate it on top of others mods!

a17tares · 04-24-13, 06:21 AM

Thank you very much, V13dweller!

V13dweller · 04-24-13, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Ok, thanks.
For JSGME, have to create a folder "whatever name" with a data folder inside, then a library folder and your files in it.
Then activate it on top of others mods!

I don't understand?
Do you mean the folder with another folder inside, then the data?

volodya61 · 04-24-13, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

I don't understand?

Just look at any other mod.. how it was done.. the folder structure, etc.

V13dweller · 04-24-13, 09:01 AM

I will upload it to the Mods Workshop in the downloads section.

a17tares · 04-24-13, 10:10 AM

Even with the fix a River class frigate still seems to sink itself while running over a u-boat sitting still at 30 meters. The only chance to prevent this is probably to increase the minimum distance from the ship the charges may be fired. But I don't know enough about the game mechanics to evaluate if this is possible or even sensible. I'm surprised that this problem wasn't mentioned before.

V13dweller · 04-25-13, 04:23 AM

What do you mean? did it throw them with the KGun or the Depth charge racks?

Fixed, the MK-9 Kgun has a shorter range then the Basic one, Im sorry, I overlooked that.

The MK-9 also has a longer reload time, at 30 seconds, do you want me to make it as fast as the basic one, at one throw per 15 seconds? or raise the Basic one to 30 seconds?

03-31-13, 04:12 AM	#1
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Destroyers destroying themselves (Or something like that) i have been trying to test a scenario using the type type 1936N destroyer, I have added some extra depth charge throwers, two pairs in the middle, and one pair at the front, and now the destroyers seem to just randomly explode, some survive, some just blow into 2 pieces, they are just exploding on the water, and this is ruining my tests on the hydrophones and Sonars. Could anyone help me with this? Edit, I think It might be caused by the blast radius of the Basic depth charge being too large, is there any way to reduce this enough that destroyers are not blowing themselves up? Edit again, I believe that I have solved it myself. Sorry for any inconvenience. Third Edit, It was that the Standard Depth charge has an explosion radius of 60, and the Kguns have a minimum throwing distance of 50 meters. If people want this fix, I might upload it as a mod, it increases the Standard Kguns range to 60 meters. Last edited by V13dweller; 03-31-13 at 07:31 AM.

04-23-13, 03:30 PM	#3
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,087 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Very annoying issue Maybe that's because they don't accelerate enough when dropping, and some destroyers are too close from each others when dropping too... __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

04-24-13, 12:48 AM	#5
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,087 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Sure, V13! __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

04-24-13, 01:15 AM	#6
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I used the Default SH5 Depth charge radius, which is 40 meters, but this is for the safety of the ships, because small and slow ship like the flower corvette may be cruising at a low speed, and attempt to attack a sub that is close on it's port side, then fire it's Kgun and it might not be able to escape, especially if it was turning into the target to bomb them with the DC racks. If you object, or want it increased, just let me know. http://www.mediafire.com/?e2zc89jrmdkd8wk Last edited by V13dweller; 04-24-13 at 09:17 AM.

04-24-13, 02:33 AM	#7
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,087 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Forgot to ask: compatible with all other mods, if i activate it at the end of list? EDIT: ahh...just opened it and it's not JSGME ready! Where do those files go? __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

04-23-13, 08:13 AM	#2
a17tares Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 14 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I would be very interested in a fix because I'm experiencing the same problem. Alternatively I'd like to know which file I need to edit. In the FX Tutorial mission, I just need to dive to 30 meters and the two warships are practically sinking themselves with their own depth charges.

04-24-13, 12:41 AM	#4
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I fixed the problem quite a while ago, I reduced the blast radius from 60 down to 50, because the minimum throw distance is 50 meters, and if you want, I could upload this little fix for you.

04-24-13, 03:14 AM	#8
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Just put them in the SH5 Data Library, Im not sure how to make files JSGME ready.

04-24-13, 04:01 AM	#9
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,087 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Ok, thanks. For JSGME, have to create a folder "whatever name" with a data folder inside, then a library folder and your files in it. Then activate it on top of others mods! __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

04-24-13, 06:21 AM	#10
a17tares Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 14 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much, V13dweller!

04-24-13, 09:01 AM	#13
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I will upload it to the Mods Workshop in the downloads section. Last edited by V13dweller; 04-24-13 at 09:53 AM.

04-24-13, 10:10 AM	#14
a17tares Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 14 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Even with the fix a River class frigate still seems to sink itself while running over a u-boat sitting still at 30 meters. The only chance to prevent this is probably to increase the minimum distance from the ship the charges may be fired. But I don't know enough about the game mechanics to evaluate if this is possible or even sensible. I'm surprised that this problem wasn't mentioned before.

04-25-13, 04:23 AM	#15
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	What do you mean? did it throw them with the KGun or the Depth charge racks? Fixed, the MK-9 Kgun has a shorter range then the Basic one, Im sorry, I overlooked that. The MK-9 also has a longer reload time, at 30 seconds, do you want me to make it as fast as the basic one, at one throw per 15 seconds? or raise the Basic one to 30 seconds?