Should assault rifles be banned in the US?

Cybermat47 · 12-17-12, 03:53 AM

They should. All you need to defend yourself is a handgun. If your hand's shaking, you obviously didn't pass your gun test.

GoldenRivet · 12-17-12, 04:12 AM

1. how many rounds need to be sent down range depends entirely upon who you are defending yourself against

2. I think if a person is properly trained and certified for ownership they have the right to own whatever type of firearm they want

3. nobody uses an assault rifle for home defense as it is an incredibly poor choice for close quarters shooting in a situation where the avoidance of collateral damage is obviously critical

4. I have always tried to make it a point not to participate in polls with loaded poll choices.

have a nice day everyone

Cybermat47 · 12-17-12, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

3. nobody uses an assault rifle for home defense as it is an incredibly poor choice for close quarters shooting in a situation where the avoidance of collateral damage is obviously critical

So they're pretty much useless unless you wanted to murder some kindergarten kids.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

have a nice day everyone

It's nighttime here

But the same to you.

GoldenRivet · 12-17-12, 04:33 AM

I was unaware that the shooter used a fully automatic assault rifle.

I thought he used a bushmaster .223

Guess when you don't know what you're talking about even a muzzle loader is an assault rifle.

And no, I'd not use my assault rifles to shoot kindergarten students as you put it, my two fully automatic assault rifles have been out of the vault twice in as many years for routine cleaning. They have both been fired one full magazine once each in the last 5 years. I don't point my firearms at anything with a personality unless I want that personality to go away forever.

Personally I think this is a really inappropriate and disrespectful time to have this discussion and I don't think I'll participate beyond this post.

Good night

Skybird · 12-17-12, 05:32 AM

Civilians buying SARs or ARs for "self-defence" do not really buy them for self-defence, but because they are either paranoid or fetishists.

To keep in check,. kill, scare to death the criminal in your home, in your train compartment, in the shop, on the streets, a pistol or revolver is perfectly sufficient. 9mm, .32, .38 - good enough if you really are just about self-defence.

If you think you need military weapons to defend yourself in your neighbourhood, then I recommend to move out of said neighbourhood, because obviously he lives in a hot warzone.

Who claims the right to own firearms of any type, even of the military type, for principal reasons of "freedom", by that logic can also claim the right to posses mines, rockets launchers, grenades. Becasue telling him he shall not own them also would limit his precious absolute and total freedom.

Firearms are no tools like any other. They are not like a knife that you can use for cutting an apple, do some work on wood - or slash a throat. A firearm is only for one purpose. It's a tool of death. I find it worrying if one is fascinated by that. One should not fear them. But one also should not like them.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 12-17-12, 05:48 AM

I voted 'No' as protest for rigged poll. I will not waste time commenting this thread unless someone post something so ridiculous I can't resist urge.

Have a nice day/night!

Oberon · 12-17-12, 06:48 AM

What kind of assault rifle do you own that has a magazine of 79 rounds?

Oberon · 12-17-12, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

I voted 'No' as protest for rigged poll.

Same.

Hottentot · 12-17-12, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

I voted 'No' as protest for rigged poll. I will not waste time commenting this thread unless someone post something so ridiculous I can't resist urge.

According to the latest research, the trails left behind by airplanes are in fact chemicals used to indoctrinate the people into believing that the wide ranging global Jewish Rosicrucian conspiracy is the acceptable reality and accepting that we are really just living in a virtual reality while our real brains are being eaten by hamster shaped machines singing Christmas carols over and over again on C Major.

Have a nice time of the day.

Jimbuna · 12-17-12, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Personally I think this is a really inappropriate and disrespectful time to have this discussion and I don't think I'll participate beyond this post.

Agreed

Herr-Berbunch · 12-17-12, 07:58 AM

I don't think now is the right time, but it would be interesting to see the North American/European/Australasian split for this type of question.

troopie · 12-17-12, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I don't think now is the right time, but it would be interesting to see the North American/European/Australasian split for this type of question.

I don't really wanna encourage this thread with a post,...But!.. I gotta pull ya up HB! I'm pretty sure the term 'Australasia' went out in the nineties,...along with Keating..

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Proximity aside, Aus. has pretty muh zero cultural/political commons with SE Asia. Any responses from Aus./Asia would be poles apart!

Red October1984 · 12-17-12, 08:25 AM

You should've gone with a simple yes or no. The way you worded the answers makes it seem that everybody should pick yes and not go with their opinion.

Assault weapons should not be banned. Banning those weapons don't make it any harder to kill somebody. If the gunman had run in with a knife instead, you would be talking about banning knives. Assault weapons these days are basically anything with a pistol grip and a magazine over 10 rounds. Many more people who own the guns practice the Amendment safely than people who unload into a school.

This thread and poll are both a load of BS.

Herr-Berbunch · 12-17-12, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by troopie

I don't really wanna encourage this thread with a post,...But!.. I gotta pull ya up HB! I'm pretty sure the term 'Australasia' went out in the nineties,...along with Keating..

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Proximity aside, Aus. has pretty muh zero cultural/political commons with SE Asia. Any responses from Aus./Asia would be poles apart!

Please accept my '90s-style' apology. It was only because I couldn't be bothered to type NZ so I used an all encompassing name.

Honestly.

troopie · 12-17-12, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Please accept my '90s-style' apology. It was only because I couldn't be bothered to type NZ so I used an all encompassing name.

Honestly.

Ha Ha. You just made my evening! Cheers HB! PM Keating was hell-bent on sucking up to Asia in the 90's and used the term prolifically, albeit with little effect (allthough included, I don't think our trans-tasmin brothers were oft' intended as the descriptors!).

I suspect there may be a few Kiwi's with their noses out of joint right now!

Edit: Apology graciously accepted! In a nineties kinda way of course!

View Poll Results: Should assault rifles be banned in the US?
Yes, all I need is a handgun	23	45.10%
No, burglars need to be shot 79 times	28	54.90%
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12-17-12, 03:53 AM	#1
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12-17-12, 04:12 AM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	1. how many rounds need to be sent down range depends entirely upon who you are defending yourself against 2. I think if a person is properly trained and certified for ownership they have the right to own whatever type of firearm they want 3. nobody uses an assault rifle for home defense as it is an incredibly poor choice for close quarters shooting in a situation where the avoidance of collateral damage is obviously critical 4. I have always tried to make it a point not to participate in polls with loaded poll choices. have a nice day everyone __________________

12-17-12, 04:33 AM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I was unaware that the shooter used a fully automatic assault rifle. I thought he used a bushmaster .223 Guess when you don't know what you're talking about even a muzzle loader is an assault rifle. And no, I'd not use my assault rifles to shoot kindergarten students as you put it, my two fully automatic assault rifles have been out of the vault twice in as many years for routine cleaning. They have both been fired one full magazine once each in the last 5 years. I don't point my firearms at anything with a personality unless I want that personality to go away forever. Personally I think this is a really inappropriate and disrespectful time to have this discussion and I don't think I'll participate beyond this post. Good night __________________

12-17-12, 05:32 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Civilians buying SARs or ARs for "self-defence" do not really buy them for self-defence, but because they are either paranoid or fetishists. To keep in check,. kill, scare to death the criminal in your home, in your train compartment, in the shop, on the streets, a pistol or revolver is perfectly sufficient. 9mm, .32, .38 - good enough if you really are just about self-defence. If you think you need military weapons to defend yourself in your neighbourhood, then I recommend to move out of said neighbourhood, because obviously he lives in a hot warzone. Who claims the right to own firearms of any type, even of the military type, for principal reasons of "freedom", by that logic can also claim the right to posses mines, rockets launchers, grenades. Becasue telling him he shall not own them also would limit his precious absolute and total freedom. Firearms are no tools like any other. They are not like a knife that you can use for cutting an apple, do some work on wood - or slash a throat. A firearm is only for one purpose. It's a tool of death. I find it worrying if one is fascinated by that. One should not fear them. But one also should not like them. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-17-12, 05:48 AM	#6
kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I voted 'No' as protest for rigged poll. I will not waste time commenting this thread unless someone post something so ridiculous I can't resist urge. Have a nice day/night! __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House

12-17-12, 06:48 AM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	What kind of assault rifle do you own that has a magazine of 79 rounds?

12-17-12, 07:58 AM	#11
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I don't think now is the right time, but it would be interesting to see the North American/European/Australasian split for this type of question. __________________

12-17-12, 08:25 AM	#13
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	You should've gone with a simple yes or no. The way you worded the answers makes it seem that everybody should pick yes and not go with their opinion. Assault weapons should not be banned. Banning those weapons don't make it any harder to kill somebody. If the gunman had run in with a knife instead, you would be talking about banning knives. Assault weapons these days are basically anything with a pistol grip and a magazine over 10 rounds. Many more people who own the guns practice the Amendment safely than people who unload into a school. This thread and poll are both a load of BS. __________________