Help identify small german submarine

subzx · 09-20-12, 04:14 AM

Hello,

I hope it will be ok to post in english in the Deutsches Forum. I am looking for help to identify a small submarine which is visible on Google Maps in the German city of Kiel.

The submarine is about 17 meters long and looks like it has been decommissioned. It is placed openly on the harbour and the top of the turret is removed.

The location is in southern Kiel. Link to Google Maps is here:

http://goo.gl/maps/Uz8HT

I am wondering if anyone knows the name of this submarine type / class?

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 04:43 AM

kaleu

only know that´s the area of the howaldtswerke-deutsche Werft
hdw.de

subzx · 09-20-12, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the information about the area! I know that HDW is a manufacturer of several submarine classes, including the German 206 type.

I wonder if that specific submarine seen on the map has been in service in the German Navy before?

Gerald · 09-20-12, 06:53 AM

subzx · 09-20-12, 07:01 AM

Tack Vendor.

Regarding the submarine it seems like the picture on Google Maps was taken as early as 2006. Someone at Virtaulglobetrotting classified it in the year 2006 as a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines".

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/...ed-submarines/

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 07:16 AM

I will not clear the appropriate why a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines" has to look like a submarine itself

subzx · 09-20-12, 08:28 AM

It clearly is a submarine, but perhaps he meant that the midget submarine was fueled by cell powered?

Gerald · 09-20-12, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subzx

It clearly is a submarine, but perhaps he meant that the midget submarine was fueled by cell powered?

Look, send a pm to Mr Ryan and he help you out,

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=210904

Herr-Berbunch · 09-20-12, 08:55 AM

Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine.

Gerald · 09-20-12, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine.

With beer,

subzx · 09-20-12, 09:00 AM

Thanks Vendor, I will contact him.

subzx · 09-21-12, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine.

Based on the shape visible from above and the direction of the shadows it is possible to see that the rectangular area emits the elevated part of the shadow.

Since the total length is 17 meters it is also possible to calculate the individual length of the different parts of the device. Above is what I belive the shape as seen from the side, more or less correct in scale.

The tower is located at 8.5 meters from the stern, that is, at the exact middle of the device.

U570 · 09-21-12, 05:11 AM

Just did a Google Images search for "Kiel submarine" and this fits the description you are giving:

It is the Greek submarine S-120 Papanikolis in October 2009

subzx · 09-21-12, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U570

It is the Greek submarine S-120 Papanikolis in October 2009

Thanks for your reply. The S-120 (or Type 214) looks a bit similar, however it is much larger with 65 meters compared to the very small device above with a length of only 17 meters.

U570 · 09-21-12, 05:48 AM

Well to be honest, I'm just guessing, and it's the best candidate so far.

09-20-12, 04:14 AM	#1
subzx Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Help identify small german submarine Hello, I hope it will be ok to post in english in the Deutsches Forum. I am looking for help to identify a small submarine which is visible on Google Maps in the German city of Kiel. The submarine is about 17 meters long and looks like it has been decommissioned. It is placed openly on the harbour and the top of the turret is removed. The location is in southern Kiel. Link to Google Maps is here: http://goo.gl/maps/Uz8HT I am wondering if anyone knows the name of this submarine type / class?

09-20-12, 04:43 AM	#2
Kalleblom Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Waterkant Posts: 252 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	kaleu only know that´s the area of the howaldtswerke-deutsche Werft hdw.de __________________ My Modlist

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09-20-12, 07:16 AM	#6
Kalleblom Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Waterkant Posts: 252 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	I will not clear the appropriate why a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines" has to look like a submarine itself __________________ My Modlist

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine. __________________

09-20-12, 06:00 AM	#3
subzx Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the information about the area! I know that HDW is a manufacturer of several submarine classes, including the German 206 type. I wonder if that specific submarine seen on the map has been in service in the German Navy before?

09-20-12, 07:01 AM	#5
subzx Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Tack Vendor. Regarding the submarine it seems like the picture on Google Maps was taken as early as 2006. Someone at Virtaulglobetrotting classified it in the year 2006 as a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines". http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/...ed-submarines/

09-20-12, 08:28 AM	#7
subzx Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It clearly is a submarine, but perhaps he meant that the midget submarine was fueled by cell powered?

09-20-12, 09:00 AM	#11
subzx Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks Vendor, I will contact him.

09-21-12, 05:11 AM	#13
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Just did a Google Images search for "Kiel submarine" and this fits the description you are giving: It is the Greek submarine S-120 Papanikolis in October 2009 __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon

09-21-12, 05:48 AM	#15
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Well to be honest, I'm just guessing, and it's the best candidate so far. __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon