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subzx 09-20-12 04:14 AM

Help identify small german submarine
 
Hello,

I hope it will be ok to post in english in the Deutsches Forum. I am looking for help to identify a small submarine which is visible on Google Maps in the German city of Kiel.

http://i46.tinypic.com/k2gvpk.png

The submarine is about 17 meters long and looks like it has been decommissioned. It is placed openly on the harbour and the top of the turret is removed.

The location is in southern Kiel. Link to Google Maps is here:

http://goo.gl/maps/Uz8HT

I am wondering if anyone knows the name of this submarine type / class?

Kalleblom 09-20-12 04:43 AM

:salute: kaleu

only know that´s the area of the howaldtswerke-deutsche Werft
hdw.de

subzx 09-20-12 06:00 AM

Thanks for the information about the area! I know that HDW is a manufacturer of several submarine classes, including the German 206 type.

I wonder if that specific submarine seen on the map has been in service in the German Navy before?

Gerald 09-20-12 06:53 AM

Welcome to SubSim Subzx!
 
:up:

subzx 09-20-12 07:01 AM

Tack Vendor. :)

Regarding the submarine it seems like the picture on Google Maps was taken as early as 2006. Someone at Virtaulglobetrotting classified it in the year 2006 as a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines".


http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/...ed-submarines/

Kalleblom 09-20-12 07:16 AM

I will not clear the appropriate why a "hydrogen refueling station for fuel cell powered submarines" has to look like a submarine itself:06::06::hmmm::hmmm:

subzx 09-20-12 08:28 AM

It clearly is a submarine, but perhaps he meant that the midget submarine was fueled by cell powered?

Gerald 09-20-12 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subzx (Post 1936784)
It clearly is a submarine, but perhaps he meant that the midget submarine was fueled by cell powered?

Look, send a pm to Mr Ryan and he help you out,

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=210904 :)

Herr-Berbunch 09-20-12 08:55 AM

Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine. :hmmm:

Gerald 09-20-12 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1936804)
Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine. :hmmm:

With beer,:D

subzx 09-20-12 09:00 AM

Thanks Vendor, I will contact him.

subzx 09-21-12 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1936804)
Looks to me more like a liquid tank than a submarine. :hmmm:

Based on the shape visible from above and the direction of the shadows it is possible to see that the rectangular area emits the elevated part of the shadow.

http://i50.tinypic.com/43p04.png

Since the total length is 17 meters it is also possible to calculate the individual length of the different parts of the device. Above is what I belive the shape as seen from the side, more or less correct in scale.

The tower is located at 8.5 meters from the stern, that is, at the exact middle of the device.

U570 09-21-12 05:11 AM

Just did a Google Images search for "Kiel submarine" and this fits the description you are giving:
http://neoskosmos.com/news/sites/def...apanikolis.jpg
It is the Greek submarine S-120 Papanikolis in October 2009

subzx 09-21-12 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U570 (Post 1937238)
It is the Greek submarine S-120 Papanikolis in October 2009

Thanks for your reply. The S-120 (or Type 214) looks a bit similar, however it is much larger with 65 meters compared to the very small device above with a length of only 17 meters.

U570 09-21-12 05:48 AM

Well to be honest, I'm just guessing, and it's the best candidate so far.


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