SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-20-12, 08:07 PM   #1
Gerald
SUBSIM Newsman
 
Gerald's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Close to sea
Posts: 24,254
Downloads: 553
Uploads: 0


A World of Harm for Women

Quote:
If Mitt Romney and his vice-presidential running mate, Representative Paul Ryan, were to win next month’s election, the harm to women’s reproductive rights would extend far beyond the borders of the United States.
Quote:
In this country, they would support the recriminalization of abortion with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and they would limit access to contraception and other services. But they have also promised to promote policies abroad that would affect millions of women in the world’s poorest countries, where lack of access to contraception, prenatal care and competent help at childbirth often results in serious illness and thousands of deaths yearly. And the wreckage would begin on Day 1 of a Romney administration.
Quote:
Mr. Romney has pledged that, on his first day in the White House, he would reinstate the “global gag rule,” the odious restriction that has been used to deny federal money for family-planning work abroad to any organization that provided information, advice, referrals or services for legal abortion or supported the legalization of abortion, even using its own money.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/op...for-women.html


Note: October 19, 2012
__________________
Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood.

Marie Curie





Gerald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 08:20 PM   #2
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 28,253
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Opinion column. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right or wrong.
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 08:23 PM   #3
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

Needs more binders.
Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 08:32 PM   #4
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 42,602
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk View Post
Opinion column. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right or wrong.
What he has indeed announced he would do, is no opinion, but now historic fact you can quote from the archives. Question is whether or not there are powers fighting him from making his declared plans true.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 09:22 PM   #5
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 28,253
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

I'm lazy. Please site where Willard would do these things.
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 09:42 PM   #6
Takeda Shingen
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,643
Downloads: 19
Uploads: 0
Default

Romney on Roe v Wade:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...tive-audience/

Romney on global gag rule, aka Mexico City Policy:

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/politic...raws-criticism

It's always about abortion with the neocons. They claim otherwise but it is always about social issues.
Takeda Shingen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-12, 10:48 PM   #7
CaptainMattJ.
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sin City
Posts: 1,364
Downloads: 55
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk View Post
I'm lazy. Please site where Willard would do these things.
not to be rude, but had you been following any of his plans on the critical issues youd wouldnt need to ask that question, as he and the republican party (who honestly make romney a puppet, turning him from his more moderate stance years ago to the ideologies the republican party shares today) have said numerous times that they want to make any abortion illegal and cut any and all funding to planned parenthood and many organizations that promote contraception in people who dont want and cant care for children, especially teens.
__________________

A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives
- James Madison
CaptainMattJ. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 12:05 AM   #8
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 02:16 AM   #9
Betonov
Navy Seal
 
Betonov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 8,647
Downloads: 26
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...
So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill, then that makes you a righty political shill

Let him post those ''opinions''. It's his right to do so.
And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field
Betonov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 03:01 AM   #10
kraznyi_oktjabr
Sea Lord
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Republiken Finland
Posts: 1,803
Downloads: 8
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betonov View Post
So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill, then that makes you a righty political shill

Let him post those ''opinions''. It's his right to do so.
And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field
__________________
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House
kraznyi_oktjabr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 05:14 AM   #11
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 28,253
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. View Post
not to be rude, but had you been following any of his plans on the critical issues youd wouldnt need to ask that question, as he and the republican party (who honestly make romney a puppet, turning him from his more moderate stance years ago to the ideologies the republican party shares today) have said numerous times that they want to make any abortion illegal and cut any and all funding to planned parenthood and many organizations that promote contraception in people who dont want and cant care for children, especially teens.
So don't be rude. Understand abortion is not a critical issue for me. Roe v Wade discussions and what any president or would be president has been used fordecades as a tool. In the sense that a candidate will spew out abolishing to energize his base to obtain support and nomination. Others use this piece of legislation to energize opposition to turn support away from a candidate. There is really nothing different here from decades past with the same questions, answers, themes and ideology. What a great time to throw out a article like this when the women's votes(polls) appear to be swinging Willard's way. See this article for what it is. Read what Take posted. Some issues are paramount to some where others are not. Abortion, getting rubbers to kids and making sure women have day after pills is not in the forefront of my concerns.
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 06:08 AM   #12
u crank
Old enough to know better
 
u crank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Prince Edward Island
Posts: 11,744
Downloads: 136
Uploads: 0


Default

Smoke and mirrors. In the political game ears need to be tickled. Promises need to be made. It's nothing new. And it won't happen. Social policies, abortion, same sex marriage, etc., never go backwards. People just wouldn't stand for it. That's progress I guess.
__________________

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

― Arthur C. Clarke




u crank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 07:06 AM   #13
Gerald
SUBSIM Newsman
 
Gerald's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Close to sea
Posts: 24,254
Downloads: 553
Uploads: 0


Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...
The title Subsim Newsman, as Neal handed out for a "decent" time to go back, is a good title, since it refers to news updates, and by chance it will with the political moves, as well as it is about space or another in our everyday life, and with it, I would say that my posts are not intended to profess political color if there is one around here, which I think is, for example, leftists ..... our comitte built on independence.
__________________
Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood.

Marie Curie





Gerald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 10:05 AM   #14
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betonov View Post
So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill
No I do not, I just think he is has a problem differentiating between news and propaganda. Partisan opinion is not news.

Quote:
And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field
I post my opinions all the time. I just don't pretend that they are "news". He claims to be a "SubSim Newsman", I do not. See the difference?
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-12, 10:06 AM   #15
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendor View Post
The title Subsim Newsman, as Neal handed out for a "decent" time to go back, is a good title, since it refers to news updates, and by chance it will with the political moves, as well as it is about space or another in our everyday life, and with it, I would say that my posts are not intended to profess political color if there is one around here, which I think is, for example, leftists ..... our comitte built on independence.
See my preceding post. You can't truthfully claim to be a newsman if you post propaganda Gerald.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.