Enemy Task force!

acetoolguy · 11-04-11, 03:41 PM

So I have never caught one....but is that a tip for a capital ship..or a warning for a hunter killer group? Do you chase them or stay away?

1480 · 11-04-11, 04:00 PM

In my experience there should be a juicy capital ship. Plenty of escorts and they will be tooling at a good speed. If you can get ahead of them and set up for a right angled attack, then go for it. If you have to catch up to them, good luck. Regardless, be prepared to be pounded by wasserbombs till the cows come home.

Disclaimer: early in the war good shot at sinking a war ship, after 1941, suicide.

Gerald · 11-04-11, 07:09 PM

Enemy Task Force, has my attention every day, year out.

Fish In The Water · 11-05-11, 05:55 AM

Chasing is pretty much out of the question due to the sheer speed of the group. If however, you're able to position yourself out front (along their path), then by all means, pick a capital ship and take your best shot.

Only this is, TF escorts don't fool around, so whatever you do - do it quickly, 'cause they'll be all over you before you know what's going on.

Jimbuna · 11-05-11, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by acetoolguy

So I have never caught one....but is that a tip for a capital ship..or a warning for a hunter killer group? Do you chase them or stay away?

There is no guarantee a TF will include a capital ship.....and in GWX IIRC (don't have my development notes at hand) there is something in the region of a 60% chance it won't.

Some of the TF routes are intentionally short so you will most likely go on the 'chase' only to have it disappear on you (Again, in GWX terms)

acetoolguy · 11-05-11, 09:36 AM

So I tried to make it a point to track one down last couple patrols. Can't catch them from behind though, so unless you guess destination right your out of luck. I finally did get a report where it looked like I could get in front. Of course there is pea soup fog, the only way to track was underwater. So I would duck under, get a bearing off the sound contact, pop back up and move to a guessed intercept point of the contact. Trying to avoid sonar, take advantage of my low profile and 300M visability. Somehow I got right in the middle of the formation. I got a quick look at a carrier in the fog at right on 250M, just at the 'safty off' range. Fired two quick hoping to get a lucky hit, the ship disappered in the fog. Both torps hit, I dove, slowed and changed course to match the carrier hoping I had at least slowed it down. I guess I did not because I never saw it again and the task force just kept on sailing, out pacing me quickly. Should have fired a full spread, lesson learned. Looking back, I may have been able to chase on the surface the fog was so thick. Knee jerk reaction to use depth as your best defence I guess. I was never attacked and as far as I could tell the escorts never reacted to the assumed hits on the carrier.
So I guess its a tie, it is intense though, all those war ships looking for you.

1480 · 11-05-11, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

There is no guarantee a TF will include a capital ship.....and in GWX IIRC (don't have my development notes at hand) there is something in the region of a 60% chance it won't.

Some of the TF routes are intentionally short so you will most likely go on the 'chase' only to have it disappear on you (Again, in GWX terms)

I am the 40%

Gerald · 11-05-11, 10:55 AM

I can give a "special" course how you capture them...

1480 · 11-05-11, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by acetoolguy

So I tried to make it a point to track one down last couple patrols. Can't catch them from behind though, so unless you guess destination right your out of luck. I finally did get a report where it looked like I could get in front. Of course there is pea soup fog, the only way to track was underwater. So I would duck under, get a bearing off the sound contact, pop back up and move to a guessed intercept point of the contact. Trying to avoid sonar, take advantage of my low profile and 300M visability. Somehow I got right in the middle of the formation. I got a quick look at a carrier in the fog at right on 250M, just at the 'safty off' range. Fired two quick hoping to get a lucky hit, the ship disappered in the fog. Both torps hit, I dove, slowed and changed course to match the carrier hoping I had at least slowed it down. I guess I did not because I never saw it again and the task force just kept on sailing, out pacing me quickly. Should have fired a full spread, lesson learned. Looking back, I may have been able to chase on the surface the fog was so thick. Knee jerk reaction to use depth as your best defence I guess. I was never attacked and as far as I could tell the escorts never reacted to the assumed hits on the carrier.
So I guess its a tie, it is intense though, all those war ships looking for you.

Pg 63 of the U-boat Commander's Handbook Subsection F:

Motto: "Better to destroy little than to damage much!"

Jimbuna · 11-05-11, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

I am the 40%

Rgr that

1480 · 11-05-11, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Rgr that

Since that seems to be the catch phrase of 2011, wanted to seem hip-like daddie-o

Jimbuna · 11-05-11, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

Since that seems to be the catch phrase of 2011, wanted to seem hip-like daddie-o

SINK EM ALL!!

11-04-11, 03:41 PM	#1
acetoolguy A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Enemy Task force! So I have never caught one....but is that a tip for a capital ship..or a warning for a hunter killer group? Do you chase them or stay away?

11-04-11, 04:00 PM	#2
1480 Lead Slinger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,442 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	In my experience there should be a juicy capital ship. Plenty of escorts and they will be tooling at a good speed. If you can get ahead of them and set up for a right angled attack, then go for it. If you have to catch up to them, good luck. Regardless, be prepared to be pounded by wasserbombs till the cows come home. Disclaimer: early in the war good shot at sinking a war ship, after 1941, suicide. __________________

11-04-11, 07:09 PM	#3
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Enemy Task Force, has my attention every day, year out. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-05-11, 05:55 AM	#4
Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	Chasing is pretty much out of the question due to the sheer speed of the group. If however, you're able to position yourself out front (along their path), then by all means, pick a capital ship and take your best shot. Only this is, TF escorts don't fool around, so whatever you do - do it quickly, 'cause they'll be all over you before you know what's going on. __________________ "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people are so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell.

11-05-11, 10:55 AM	#8
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	I can give a "special" course how you capture them... __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-05-11, 09:36 AM	#6
acetoolguy A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	So I tried to make it a point to track one down last couple patrols. Can't catch them from behind though, so unless you guess destination right your out of luck. I finally did get a report where it looked like I could get in front. Of course there is pea soup fog, the only way to track was underwater. So I would duck under, get a bearing off the sound contact, pop back up and move to a guessed intercept point of the contact. Trying to avoid sonar, take advantage of my low profile and 300M visability. Somehow I got right in the middle of the formation. I got a quick look at a carrier in the fog at right on 250M, just at the 'safty off' range. Fired two quick hoping to get a lucky hit, the ship disappered in the fog. Both torps hit, I dove, slowed and changed course to match the carrier hoping I had at least slowed it down. I guess I did not because I never saw it again and the task force just kept on sailing, out pacing me quickly. Should have fired a full spread, lesson learned. Looking back, I may have been able to chase on the surface the fog was so thick. Knee jerk reaction to use depth as your best defence I guess. I was never attacked and as far as I could tell the escorts never reacted to the assumed hits on the carrier. So I guess its a tie, it is intense though, all those war ships looking for you.