Church has changed since I was a kid

Platapus · 09-09-11, 07:05 PM

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...ase?hpt=ju_bn6

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PHOENIX - Police have charged the founder of a Phoenix church that focuses on “sexual healing” with several felonies, including maintaining a house of prostitution.
Phoenix police say Tracy Elise was among those arrested after Phoenix officers served a search warrant at Goddess Temple on Wednesday .

"This was no more a church than Cuba is Fantasy Island. And let's not mix religious freedom and religious practices with criminal activity," said Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery.

The temple, reportedly founded in 2008, is located near 24th Street and Thomas Road. According to its website, it offers “sexual education,” “sacred baths” and sensual touching focusing on “your resonating vessel.”

Can I get an AMEN?

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The website also said, "we cannot say for sure that you will have sex with anyone here in the temple, although you will have a sensual adventure."

I feel a rapture coming Brother!

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Phoenix police Sgt. Steve Martos said the warrant was served as part of a six-month investigation into the activities of employees at the Phoenix Goddess Temple in Phoenix and another temple in Sedona, operating since 2005.

Martos said multiple arrests were made, including 58-year-old Wayne Clayton.

Court records released Thursday show that Clayton faces five different charges. Those counts include illegal control of enterprise, maintaining a house of prostitution, pandering, receiving earnings of prostitution, and conspiracy of illegal control of enterprise.

A total of 16 people were questioned by police – five men and 11 women, Martos said. He said more arrests were expected.

The County Attorney's Office says Elise "was involved in a similar suspected brothel in Seattle that was shut down by law enforcement in 2009."
She faces charges of prostitution, illegal control of an enterprise, pandering, and operating a house of prostitution.

In 2009, the temple moved to Phoenix from Scottsdale. At the time, it was also under investigation by Scottsdale police after neighbors complained that a “brothel” was operating in their neighborhood.
Martos said "the investigation was initiated by the Phoenix Police Department’s VICE Unit who partnered with the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office."

"Instead of Johns, they were called seekers. Instead of sexual intercourse, it was called [a] sacred union. Women were not called prostitutes, they were called goddesses. Instead of a brothel or a house of prostitution, they called it a church," said Martos.

Hallelujah!

Running a whorehouse out of a church and pretending it is a religion - awesome!

Sailor Steve · 09-09-11, 07:07 PM

I think I've recieved my calling...

Jimbuna · 09-09-11, 07:10 PM

I'm all for 'sensual adventures'

Platapus · 09-09-11, 07:29 PM

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The temple, reportedly founded in 2008, is located near 24th Street and Thomas Road. According to its website, it offers “sexual education,” “sacred baths” and sensual touching focusing on “your resonating vessel.”

If you experience a resonating of your vessel that lasts for more than four hours, please seek medical attention.

This has been a public service announcement.

TarJak · 09-09-11, 07:59 PM

Hallelujah!

09-09-11, 08:07 PM

Well... They say you should treat your body as a temple..

Torplexed · 09-09-11, 08:07 PM

Gimmee that old-time religion.

razark · 09-09-11, 08:09 PM

Can I order a copy of their holy book?

And does that come in a plain brown wrapper?

vienna · 09-09-11, 08:23 PM

So, no one wants to venture any comments about a second...er, em,.."arrival"...?...

Oberon · 09-09-11, 08:39 PM

I don't quite know whether to laugh at the original post, or sigh at the knowledge that this thread could soon derail into the same kind of territory as the 'Gay Marriage' thread.

AVGWarhawk · 09-09-11, 08:53 PM

Got to admit it was clever.

MH · 09-09-11, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

So, no one wants to venture any comments about a second...er, em,.."arrival"...?...

Oh my god....YES

Blood_splat · 09-09-11, 10:37 PM

Finally a peaceful religion.

Sailor Steve · 09-09-11, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

So, no one wants to venture any comments about a second...er, em,.."arrival"...?...

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Originally Posted by MH

Oh my god....YES

Was it good for you?

Armistead · 09-09-11, 11:19 PM

During biblical days this was common, the apostle Paul dealt with it at Corinth, home of over 1000 temples filled with pagan prostitutes. The new christian converts continued in this tradition, go to temple, pay, have sex with a prostitution. In greek, the archway where the prostitutes hung out was called the fornix, thus came the word fornication. Biblically it means sex with a pagan prostitute, but religion redefined it to include any sexual act they didn't like.

I'm not sure how law can decide the religious intent, but I guess they caught them selling goods. I myself don't see what's wrong with prostitution, all men are required to buy the goods in some fashion.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm all for 'sensual adventures' __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Gimmee that old-time religion. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Hallelujah!

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	So, no one wants to venture any comments about a second...er, em,.."arrival"...?...

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I don't quite know whether to laugh at the original post, or sigh at the knowledge that this thread could soon derail into the same kind of territory as the 'Gay Marriage' thread.

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Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Finally a peaceful religion.

09-09-11, 11:19 PM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	During biblical days this was common, the apostle Paul dealt with it at Corinth, home of over 1000 temples filled with pagan prostitutes. The new christian converts continued in this tradition, go to temple, pay, have sex with a prostitution. In greek, the archway where the prostitutes hung out was called the fornix, thus came the word fornication. Biblically it means sex with a pagan prostitute, but religion redefined it to include any sexual act they didn't like. I'm not sure how law can decide the religious intent, but I guess they caught them selling goods. I myself don't see what's wrong with prostitution, all men are required to buy the goods in some fashion.