Elder scrolls series

[Castout]

I tried Oblivion yet despite the hype my impression while playing the game is that one of loneliness.

I feel like the vast world of the game is pretty empty aside from me. It made the game kind of depressing and made me want to quit to avoid feeling lonely and purposeless(the quests were not convincing and the battles were awkward and ugly)

Just watched Skyrim clip on youtube and I got the exact impression watching it. Loneliness and without purpose . . . .

Anybody share my sentiment?

[Castout]

Double thread. Took me more than 5 minutes to post this thread in Subsim.

Now I have two.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Castout

I tried Oblivion yet despite the hype my impression while playing the game is that one of loneliness.

I feel like the vast world of the game is pretty empty aside from me. It made the game kind of depressing and made me want to quit to avoid feeling lonely and purposeless(the quests were not convincing and the battles were awkward and ugly)

Just watched Skyrim clip on youtube and I got the exact impression watching it. Loneliness and without purpose . . . .

Anybody share my sentiment?

No.

And Skyrim will be amazing!

I think your just bored today Castout and want a bit of a debate. Well you picked the right topic to start one!

[Castout]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

No.

And Skyrim will be amazing!

I think your just bored today Castout and want a bit of a debate. Well you picked the right topic to start one!

Not really I'm not looking for a debate. The thing is I was never excited on Oblivion and not now on Skyrim. I tried to understand the hype just can't see it.

If Skyrim had more convincing and more beautiful 1st person combat then it would be good. More if you could co-op with a few guys but now the first person combat seems to be exactly like Oblivion which I never like nor enjoy.

I made this thread not to debate. I like to know and discuss opinions. I opened this thread because I haven't decided on Red Orchestra 2.
Batman is sure I will get but I may get BF3 instead RO2 or even Skyrim. The thing is the latter three titles don't exactly excite me that much.
Batman does though.

[Crécy]

Originally Posted by Castout

Batman is sure I will get but I may get BF3 instead RO2 or even Skyrim. The thing is the latter three titles don't exactly excite me that much.
Batman does though.

Problem solved. Get only batman and save the money which you would otherwise spend to BF3, RO2 or Skyrim.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Crécy

Problem solved. Get only batman and save the money which you would have otherwise spend to BF3, RO2 or Skyrim.

That would be logical. I'm just afraid I would be missing a great title which I would like very much in any of those 3(BF3, RO2 or Skyrim).

I'm still excited whenever I play DW, or Company of Heroes, Medieval 2 or Shogun 2 for example. It's not how old the game is but the game play to me.

I cannot even convince myself to buy Starcraft 2 as the game clips never excite me much. I played the first and loved it very much but it seems 10 year later I feel that my taste has grown to be above such titles. I wonder am I missing a great title which I would otherwise love to death. Always thinking about getting SC2 now and then for the nostalgic value alone but . . . never able to convince myself enough simply because the game clip doesn't excite me much or even at all.

Last time I went into the game shop with the intention of getting Warhammer 40K Spacemarine I rescinded and bought myself a premium Razer rigid mouse pad instead(The Vespula). The cost of which is 3/4 of the game. Somehow the mousepad was more interesting/exciting than the game.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Castout

Not really I'm not looking for a debate. The thing is I was never excited on Oblivion and not now on Skyrim. I tried to understand the hype just can't see it.

If Skyrim had more convincing and more beautiful 1st person combat then it would be good. More if you could co-op with a few guys but now the first person combat seems to be exactly like Oblivion which I never like nor enjoy.

I made this thread not to debate. I like to know and discuss opinions. I opened this thread because I haven't decided on Red Orchestra 2.
Batman is sure I will get but I may get BF3 instead RO2 or even Skyrim. The thing is the latter three titles don't exactly excite me that much.
Batman does though.

Ok well if you don't think Skyrim is the bee's knees then don't buy it. If you think Oblivion first person combat wasn't that great you wouldn't want to play Morrowind. I thought Morrowind combat was bad and Oblivion combat was an improvement.

Put on your cape and get batman.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Ok well if you don't think Skyrim is the bee's knees then don't buy it. If you think Oblivion first person combat wasn't that great you wouldn't want to play Morrowind. I thought Morrowind combat was bad and Oblivion combat was an improvement.

Put on your cape and get batman.

but then I'll feel left out.

I'm going to read the reviews of RO2, Skyrim and BF3 to decide whether any of those is worth my time and money.

They are not bad game but I don't know somehow they are lacking in some aspect or another. RO2 my main concern with the map size and numbers. The youtube clips don't show too many of them or how big they are9with the exception of the tank map, that's a big map). The game seems like quick instant kills and instant death with little tactic nor thinking required or even encouraged. BF3 after a while is beginning to seem like a beautiful shooter but one without much depth and freedom as in ArmA 2. Skyrim offers vast open end world which is what I like but the first person combat is awkward and in the end a rather ugly execution of the in game combat. Plus Oblivion felt like a vast silent/empty world. I expect Skyrim to be no better. I mean as I travel I get attacked by this or that monster or bandits but they seem to be random and purposeless. They don't even say give us your coins or anything . . . . . I'd like to see a lively and believable and sensible world in the game.

Batman Arkham City is not perfect being without MP but I seem to think it delivers a believable package with excellent atmosphere.

[HunterICX]

RO2 my main concern with the map size and numbers.

The game is still beeing worked on and still a lot of content has to come out of the pipeline.
and not to forget the community modding, like they've done with the original RO.

BF3 is something I'll avoid, for me it's BF series meets the COD:MW series
and ofcourse it lacks the depth of ArmA 2 but ArmA is a infantry Sim while BF3 is just a simple shooter so there's nothing you can base on BF3 to compare it even with ArmA 2.

HunterICX

[Skybird]

I still occasionally stroll around in the world of Oblivion - to me it all is about atmosphere, the mood of places and the chnaging light in changing time fo day and weather. I simply feel somewhat like coming home again whenever I enter the game. And I enjoy to recognise places again that I had visited long time ago. I completely ignore the main plot, it is very repetitive. I just stroll around and enjoy what is being laid out before my eyes.

And the music - another long-known companion now!

I remember the first time I fired the game up, in 2007 I think. Slow system, old 4:3 monitor, CRT. And still - I was stunned in disbelief, and couldn'T believe the detail and beauty all around. First the sequence in the prison dungeon, the escape, then getting out from the tunnel outside the wall, at night, a starry sky above me, moving tree leafes, the sounds - unbelievable! After dawn, when the sun was high, I walked over the bridge, turned right, the road you use to go when heading for Chorrol, and there is the path with those wall segments with flowers on them - it reminded me of certain illustration in a very old book I have with fairy tales, printed in the 1930s, with pictures like they do not do them anymore today. I just watched and thought - wowh. And I felt happy during those first hours of play. It was all new and excitiing, the first duels, running away or fighting, and if the latter - how best!?


To me it is more a Second Life clone, so to speak. Playing imported 40s radio programs when being on the bridge and doing a long ride in SH3 is what comes closest to the way Oblivion makes me feel. The feeling of melancholy and isolation I happened to experience surprisingly intense in SH3, for a game. Oblivion can only be done justice if you also compare it to the standards of the time it was released: 2006. And for that year, the graphics were simply breathtaking.

I also completes the Shivering Isles. I loved the humour and the German voice (a famous actor over here) of Sheogorath, and the queer setting.


And ArmA2, I would only wish it they would finally, finally, finally spend at least some hours on repairing that totally FUBAR AI. It has become worse with every release. That'S why I have deleted ArmA2 again, do not play ArmA1 anymore, and only occasionally do a quick fight in Flashpoint. They are focussing too much on working on graphics and including ever more content, but the AI is some of the worst I have ever seen in any game. If they would priont on the package "online game, MP exclusively", then okay, at least then people would be warned. But selling it as a SP game as well is a bad joke. And with bad AI I mean the enemy as well as by team mates, cannot say who sucks more.

[Castout]

@Hunter Thx Hunter for the RO2 info. Aye you cannot compare BF 3 and ArmA 2 but actually you can but BF3 would be put at disadvantages.

Originally Posted by Skybird

I still occasionally stroll around in the world of Oblivion - to me it all is about atmosphere, the mood of places and the chnaging light in changing time fo day and weather. I simply feel somewhat like coming home again whenever I enter the game. And I enjoy to recognise places again that I had visited long time ago. I completely ignore the main plot, it is very repetitive. I just stroll around and enjoy what is being laid out before my eyes.

And the music - another long-known companion now!

To me it is more a Second Life clone, so to speak. Playing imported 40s radio programs when being on the bridge and doing a long ride in SH3 is what comes closest to the way Oblivion makes me feel. The feeling of melancholy and isolation I happened to experience surprisingly intense in SH3, for a game.

For me whenever I tried playing Oblivion I feel alone pretty quick.
If the game is about a vast open ended world I'd like to be immersed in it. But the immersion never came because though the world is beautiful it feels lacking soul. The AI was never convincing to portray personality. The bandits never spoke anything. Everything and everybody in the route seemed to be wanting to kill me and the battle in first person feels very awkward (come on body motion is so dynamic I have to see my feet sometimes, or my chest or my thigh, etc) .

I'm a whiner am I LOL

[soopaman2]

Oblivion is a very well put together game. Engine can be a little crashy at times but not too much to be a gamebreaker. The openess of you adventure and yes, the music are all just phenominal.

And if you didn't find Sheogorath highly amusing then you lack a humor bone!

I once dug a pit and filled it with clouds....or was it clowns.... it doesn't matter, it didn't slow him down. But it really began to smell! Must have been clowns. Clouds don't smell, they taste of butter. And tears.

Wondering why I let her go, don't you? I can see it in your face... mostly in your eyes. Maybe I'll take those from you when all of this is over.

Jyggalag! He is the Prince of Order. Or biscuits...no, no, Order! And not in a good way. Bleak. Colorless. Dead. Boring, boring, BORING! And not a fan of my work, I can tell you. Hates it, hates me. You've seen his knights. Not the warm and cuddly sort.

I'm so happy I could just tear out your intestines and strangle you with them!

Those lines alone are worth playing the game for!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Castout

@Hunter Thx Hunter for the RO2 info. Aye you cannot compare BF 3 and ArmA 2 but actually you can but BF3 would be put at disadvantages.



For me whenever I tried playing Oblivion I feel alone pretty quick.
If the game is about a vast open ended world I'd like to be immersed in it. But the immersion never came because though the world is beautiful it feels lacking soul. The AI was never convincing to portray personality. The bandits never spoke anything. Everything and everybody in the route seemed to be wanting to kill me and the battle in first person feels very awkward (come on body motion is so dynamic I have to see my feet sometimes, or my chest or my thigh, etc) .

I'm a whiner am I LOL

That is a debate that is as old as the game: the battle between those saying it is no role-playing game due to lacking options for indiovoidual interaction, and those saying it is a roleplaying game nevertheless.

Never understood this pedantic messianism of these debators! My advise is: take the game as what it is, and in the way it is. Then nothing hinders you to see all the beauty assembled in it.

I'm visiting it occasionally until today - for over 4 years. And still I occasionally discover somethign new, or get stunned ahgain by some beautioful interaction of light, natural place, mood and weather, making me to stay there and just watching it when it changes slowly with the time of day.

[ajrimmer42]

Originally Posted by Castout

I tried Oblivion yet despite the hype my impression while playing the game is that one of loneliness.

I feel like the vast world of the game is pretty empty aside from me. It made the game kind of depressing and made me want to quit to avoid feeling lonely and purposeless(the quests were not convincing and the battles were awkward and ugly)

Just watched Skyrim clip on youtube and I got the exact impression watching it. Loneliness and without purpose . . . .

Anybody share my sentiment?

I'll be honest here, I know exactly what you mean. I just could never get into either Morrowind or Oblivion no matter how hard I tried to force myself through it. I just found it repetitive, the voice acting was just ridiculous despite having some top actors in it, and the story just didn't interest me.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I'm visiting it occasionally until today - for over 4 years. And still I occasionally discover somethign new, or get stunned ahgain by some beautioful interaction of light, natural place, mood and weather, making me to stay there and just watching it when it changes slowly with the time of day.

I'm almost sold. Makes a very good argument. I let November come then