French pension reforms

STEED · 10-18-10, 04:20 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11567457

Wow the French our going nuts about raising the pension age to 62! Ours is 68 and that will be history soon, work till you drop and not a peep out of the UK folk. Maybe we need to take a leaf out of the French book and kick up a stink!

Rhodes · 10-18-10, 04:28 PM

Same here, they raised to 65 with out pension penalties and possibly they are go to raise to 70 years!!! Even our health minister says that do to the raise of the life expectancy, people shoud be in activity more years.
We do have to look at the french and learn something or two.

Betonov · 10-18-10, 04:29 PM

I admire the french, they go on baricades everytime the goverment wants to stink it up
When they raised the working limit here to 65 there were some minor protests and some disgruntled statements, but that was it. The french have a lot of experience with riot organization

yubba · 10-18-10, 07:07 PM

Sounds like that is working out well for them, heard on the radio, that they got riots and burnin cars there in ole Parey. Got a french military rifle never fired drop twice.

TLAM Strike · 10-18-10, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

The french have a lot of experience with riot organization

Ain't that the truth...

TarJak · 10-18-10, 07:34 PM

Merde, what a mess. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...015-16m5m.html

bookworm_020 · 10-18-10, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

The french have a lot of experience with riot organization

Maybe they could export it and help fund their early retirements?

yubba · 10-18-10, 08:57 PM

Can't wait for that too start here in the states hope Obummy is watching

See socialism is just ducky

Betonov · 10-19-10, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Maybe they could export it and help fund their early retirements?

€15 000 I give to a French riot specialist that will organize a riot in Ljubljana

VipertheSniper · 10-19-10, 04:31 AM

The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

Skybird · 10-19-10, 04:39 AM

Everybody wants to party, but nobody wants to do the cleaning.

There is a reason why all Western nations are de facto bancrupt.

They should riot against the finance lobby, and banks - fine with me. But striking against pensions not before 62 years? Even more so since the past has proven beyond any doubt that unemployment level amongst the young does not get tackled by having an early pension age? Adding 2 years to their ridiculously low pension age (the lowest in all europe, I think), will mean nothing for youth unemployment.

The French, like we all, live beyond our means. Since we acannot afford all that, that is why our nations have so ridiculously high debts. And that is why now we have a currency war as well. Dollar versus Euro versus Yuan. No surprise there - only surprise is that the dollar accuses the yuan to be kept artifically low - with the dollar having been kept artifically low since the early 70, when Nixon's finance minister in 1971 gets quoted with having told the Europeans: "It [the dollar] is our currency, but it is your problem."

What goes up, must come down. Sooner or later, it all must necessarily collapse. It's a sick design from A to Z, working nice only in the short and maybe medium term - but never the long term.

Youth revolts are adding to the French mess now, I read, and thes ehave little to do with the pensions, but are picking the action up where they left it 2005 and 2006.

Sarkozy however scored another major victory over his stupid and spineless German counterpart, Merkel, this empty hole-in-a-head, giving France what it wanted, while leaving the Germans no realistic fututre option that could ever hold what it promises. But if he has hoped that would distract attention of protesters back at home, he obviously has thought wrong.

I wonder why Merkel takes disagreeing entry positions at international negotiations anymore anyway, since everybody knows by now that in the end she will always be willing to give them up in full - for nothing substantial in return, just empty word shells, and just for the sake of avoiding said negotiations giving a public impression of having failed - as if what she is doing is no failure itself! Maybe she should better sell teddy bears in a toy shop. To her, the shine always seems to mean more than the substance.

10-19-10, 05:17 AM

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See socialism is just ducky

Sorry to break it to ya but the state pensions system was set up by a reactionary imperialist who used it to benefit business interests and counter socialism.

But perhaps its all an evil plot by the reptilians so pensions and riots don't really matter as the secret gherkin shaped planet guided by hidden penguins from NASCAR in league with the illuminati and the easter bunny are going to wipe out mankind soon.

Jimbuna · 10-19-10, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

Looks like this has long been the trend throughout Europe.

It also reinforces my belief I took the right decision in retiring at the age of 50

papa_smurf · 10-19-10, 07:03 AM

And the French call us Brits a bunch of complainers....

Blood_splat · 10-19-10, 08:42 AM

Soon they'll raise it to 120 for my generation

10-18-10, 04:20 PM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	French pension reforms http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11567457 Wow the French our going nuts about raising the pension age to 62! Ours is 68 and that will be history soon, work till you drop and not a peep out of the UK folk. Maybe we need to take a leaf out of the French book and kick up a stink! __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,515 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Same here, they raised to 65 with out pension penalties and possibly they are go to raise to 70 years!!! Even our health minister says that do to the raise of the life expectancy, people shoud be in activity more years. We do have to look at the french and learn something or two. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Can't wait for that too start here in the states hope Obummy is watchingSee socialism is just ducky Last edited by yubba; 10-18-10 at 09:11 PM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Everybody wants to party, but nobody wants to do the cleaning. There is a reason why all Western nations are de facto bancrupt. They should riot against the finance lobby, and banks - fine with me. But striking against pensions not before 62 years? Even more so since the past has proven beyond any doubt that unemployment level amongst the young does not get tackled by having an early pension age? Adding 2 years to their ridiculously low pension age (the lowest in all europe, I think), will mean nothing for youth unemployment. The French, like we all, live beyond our means. Since we acannot afford all that, that is why our nations have so ridiculously high debts. And that is why now we have a currency war as well. Dollar versus Euro versus Yuan. No surprise there - only surprise is that the dollar accuses the yuan to be kept artifically low - with the dollar having been kept artifically low since the early 70, when Nixon's finance minister in 1971 gets quoted with having told the Europeans: "It [the dollar] is our currency, but it is your problem." What goes up, must come down. Sooner or later, it all must necessarily collapse. It's a sick design from A to Z, working nice only in the short and maybe medium term - but never the long term. Youth revolts are adding to the French mess now, I read, and thes ehave little to do with the pensions, but are picking the action up where they left it 2005 and 2006. Sarkozy however scored another major victory over his stupid and spineless German counterpart, Merkel, this empty hole-in-a-head, giving France what it wanted, while leaving the Germans no realistic fututre option that could ever hold what it promises. But if he has hoped that would distract attention of protesters back at home, he obviously has thought wrong. I wonder why Merkel takes disagreeing entry positions at international negotiations anymore anyway, since everybody knows by now that in the end she will always be willing to give them up in full - for nothing substantial in return, just empty word shells, and just for the sake of avoiding said negotiations giving a public impression of having failed - as if what she is doing is no failure itself! Maybe she should better sell teddy bears in a toy shop. To her, the shine always seems to mean more than the substance. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I admire the french, they go on baricades everytime the goverment wants to stink it up When they raised the working limit here to 65 there were some minor protests and some disgruntled statements, but that was it. The french have a lot of experience with riot organization

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Sounds like that is working out well for them, heard on the radio, that they got riots and burnin cars there in ole Parey. Got a french military rifle never fired drop twice.

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Merde, what a mess. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...015-16m5m.html

10-19-10, 04:31 AM	#10
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,070 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

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Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Soon they'll raise it to 120 for my generation