Can someone please explain how the assist W/O works

fastfed · 09-11-10, 02:21 PM

I finally am going to get some realism out of this game.. I am at 91% realism, the only thing I have is event cam ( I still like to see the ships and stuff go boom ) and assit weapons officer..

So, Its early 1941, I'm in my IXC and I see a lone merchant, I am finally playing dead is dead so I want to make sure I do things right.. I line up a perfect bow shot to the target, I set my depth and speed, 2 torps one slow one fast. I lock onto the target and then click the w/o and select, Identify target.. He does... I think.. Then the other options are to choose a target. closest merchant/warpship and just ship in general..

nothing seems to work.. It never comes up with a solution to the target I am locked onto.. I was under the impression that the W/O would do this for.. Unless I am doing something wrong..

BTW I am running GWX3 and MAGUI3

Weiss Pinguin · 09-11-10, 02:36 PM

You have to order Weps to get you a solution. Click on the weapons officer's icon on the toolbar, and select 'Solution to target' (Should be the middle button)

Alternatively, if you use SetKeys you can map 'Solution to target' to a key. (and as a bonus you won't have to wait through the second or so delay between the time you give the order and the time he comes up with one)

fastfed · 09-11-10, 06:33 PM

There is no Solution to target button.. Just identify target.. Which it just locks onto the middle of the ship.. BUt no solution, if I fire judging by the TDC screen accuracy it will miss by a mile.

THIS SUCKS

fastfed · 09-11-10, 07:31 PM

On my ipad on my way to get "iron coffins" , i had to exit my patrol because i cannot hit anything

.. I hope someone can come up with an answer soon.. I dont want to return to port with a full tank of fuel and torpedoes...

Weiss Pinguin · 09-11-10, 07:52 PM

You're playing with targeting assistance on? Do you have the stock GUI? You should be able to lock onto a target, click on the WE's icon, then click on torpedo attack, then the solution to target. (middle button)

Sailor Steve · 09-11-10, 08:20 PM

When looking through the periscope or UZO, clicking on the Weapons Officer icon should give you a list of choices, including Torpedo Attack. There should be three buttons that come up with that choice. The left one should be Identify Target, the middle one should be Torpedo Aiming Data, and the right one should be Launch Torpedo.

Torpedo Aiming Data puts the information on the Notepad, and transmits it to the TDC. If that isn't happening, the nearest thing I can figure is that the GUI you're using removes the notepad. If that's the case, the WE Assistance isn't available to you.

fastfed · 09-11-10, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

When looking through the periscope or UZO, clicking on the Weapons Officer icon should give you a list of choices, including Torpedo Attack. There should be three buttons that come up with that choice. The left one should be Identify Target, the middle one should be Torpedo Aiming Data, and the right one should be Launch Torpedo.

Torpedo Aiming Data puts the information on the Notepad, and transmits it to the TDC. If that isn't happening, the nearest thing I can figure is that the GUI you're using removes the notepad. If that's the case, the WE Assistance isn't available to you.

I posted that im using magui3.. Im sure most of you use the same one

fastfed · 09-11-10, 10:59 PM

Well I guess the magui3 doesn't have a "solution to target button"

So I downloaded the "set keys mod" and set the "solution to target" button to "T"

So now I click the Identify ship button and then press the "T" button.. Works like a charm!

I am 80 meters deep right now after sinking 2 ships in a medium size convoy.. Its not bad considering I am playing "dead is dead" now and trying to evade some DC's..... Playing this way really adds some excitement... I know I won't be able to just reload (well I can, but I won't) and it adds to the immersion factor!

I wish there was a way though, to NOT allow me to load a game after I die.. I know its self discipline but its still going to be tempting to lose, lets say 5 successful patrols because of a stupid mistake.... That is if I survive now..

OK, wish me luck, alt-tabing back to the game

Weiss Pinguin · 09-11-10, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfed

I posted that im using magui3.. Im sure most of you use the same one

Ah that's it, I use stock GWX interface.

fastfed · 09-11-10, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

Ah that's it, I use stock GWX interface.

May I ask why?? Just curious as the way mods go with this game, different is usually better...

I think the new interface is great! and I don't even play manual targeting..

So why do you like the stock over the rest? Or are you just not into mods like this?

K-61 · 09-11-10, 11:18 PM

Stock GWX is not the same as stock SH3. I myself am still with the stock GWX but am considering another GUI, as soon as I find one that suits me. I would appreciate having the TDC controls on the same screen as the scopes and UZO.

fastfed · 09-11-10, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by K-61

Stock GWX is not the same as stock SH3. I myself am still with the stock GWX but am considering another GUI, as soon as I find one that suits me. I would appreciate having the TDC controls on the same screen as the scopes and UZO.

Gotcha! Well, remember this thread, because I have been mod hunting for a while now and when it comes to interfaces I have found the one I posted to be one of the best (magui3).. Its also the one most hardcore players use, but I've tried about 3 of them and they're all good, and all take a little to get used to..

Good luck bro!

frau kaleun · 09-11-10, 11:32 PM

IIRC some of the GUI mods are designed specifically for manual targeting only. So the "controls" for any kind of assisted targeting are left out deliberately. Glad you could get yours to work though.

Weiss Pinguin · 09-12-10, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfed

Why do you like the stock over the rest? Or are you just not into mods like this?

Actually all the interface mods lag out my old machine. Plus by now I'm just used to GWX's layout, anytime I try something new I feel like someone's just come by and rearranged my computer desk

Sailor Steve · 09-12-10, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfed

I posted that im using magui3..

I know. That's why I pointed that out.

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Im sure most of you use the same one

Nope. I like my screen less cluttered, not more.

09-11-10, 02:21 PM	#1
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	Can someone please explain how the assist W/O works I finally am going to get some realism out of this game.. I am at 91% realism, the only thing I have is event cam ( I still like to see the ships and stuff go boom ) and assit weapons officer.. So, Its early 1941, I'm in my IXC and I see a lone merchant, I am finally playing dead is dead so I want to make sure I do things right.. I line up a perfect bow shot to the target, I set my depth and speed, 2 torps one slow one fast. I lock onto the target and then click the w/o and select, Identify target.. He does... I think.. Then the other options are to choose a target. closest merchant/warpship and just ship in general.. nothing seems to work.. It never comes up with a solution to the target I am locked onto.. I was under the impression that the W/O would do this for.. Unless I am doing something wrong.. BTW I am running GWX3 and MAGUI3

09-11-10, 02:36 PM	#2
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	You have to order Weps to get you a solution. Click on the weapons officer's icon on the toolbar, and select 'Solution to target' (Should be the middle button) Alternatively, if you use SetKeys you can map 'Solution to target' to a key. (and as a bonus you won't have to wait through the second or so delay between the time you give the order and the time he comes up with one) __________________

09-11-10, 07:52 PM	#5
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	You're playing with targeting assistance on? Do you have the stock GUI? You should be able to lock onto a target, click on the WE's icon, then click on torpedo attack, then the solution to target. (middle button) __________________

09-11-10, 08:20 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	When looking through the periscope or UZO, clicking on the Weapons Officer icon should give you a list of choices, including Torpedo Attack. There should be three buttons that come up with that choice. The left one should be Identify Target, the middle one should be Torpedo Aiming Data, and the right one should be Launch Torpedo. Torpedo Aiming Data puts the information on the Notepad, and transmits it to the TDC. If that isn't happening, the nearest thing I can figure is that the GUI you're using removes the notepad. If that's the case, the WE Assistance isn't available to you. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-11-10, 11:18 PM	#11
K-61 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 795 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Stock GWX is not the same as stock SH3. I myself am still with the stock GWX but am considering another GUI, as soon as I find one that suits me. I would appreciate having the TDC controls on the same screen as the scopes and UZO. __________________

09-11-10, 06:33 PM	#3
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	There is no Solution to target button.. Just identify target.. Which it just locks onto the middle of the ship.. BUt no solution, if I fire judging by the TDC screen accuracy it will miss by a mile. THIS SUCKS

09-11-10, 07:31 PM	#4
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	On my ipad on my way to get "iron coffins" , i had to exit my patrol because i cannot hit anything .. I hope someone can come up with an answer soon.. I dont want to return to port with a full tank of fuel and torpedoes...

09-11-10, 10:59 PM	#8
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	Well I guess the magui3 doesn't have a "solution to target button" So I downloaded the "set keys mod" and set the "solution to target" button to "T" So now I click the Identify ship button and then press the "T" button.. Works like a charm! I am 80 meters deep right now after sinking 2 ships in a medium size convoy.. Its not bad considering I am playing "dead is dead" now and trying to evade some DC's..... Playing this way really adds some excitement... I know I won't be able to just reload (well I can, but I won't) and it adds to the immersion factor! I wish there was a way though, to NOT allow me to load a game after I die.. I know its self discipline but its still going to be tempting to lose, lets say 5 successful patrols because of a stupid mistake.... That is if I survive now.. OK, wish me luck, alt-tabing back to the game

09-11-10, 11:32 PM	#13
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	IIRC some of the GUI mods are designed specifically for manual targeting only. So the "controls" for any kind of assisted targeting are left out deliberately. Glad you could get yours to work though.