Stalemate

[JokerOfFate]

Yep, I'm stuck at 30m unable to do much, ASW Trawlers circle up above.
My main concern is the fact that again I lost more officers to a Tribal and this time not just one or two, but all of 'em.

I got the Tribal leaving the 3-2 to them, but now I'm stuck they're up there and will not give up no matter what I try, they always know where I am . To add to that there's a V&W up there too circling.

They don't have any depth charges left, but they refuse to give up.

Right now I'm making a dash for deeper water.

I'm going to need some help to get out of this one,

[timmy41]

arent most of the boats functions unusable if the officers are dead?

[JokerOfFate]

Nope, if you man their post you can work the boat, but not easy cuz you can't use hot keys

[Gerald]

Try to set speed to 2 knots and move a zigzag course,have you any decoys

Not trying to burst your bubble. but your sunk At least if you get out of this Ill whistle dixie

CORRECTION: I didnt see the "they have no DCs left part" my advice would be dash for shallow waters then go deep and go silent, hopefully your air will hold out that long as well as the batteries

Originally Posted by JokerOfFate

Yep, I'm stuck at 30m unable to do much, ASW Trawlers circle up above.
My main concern is the fact that again I lost more officers to a Tribal and this time not just one or two, but all of 'em.

I got the Tribal leaving the 3-2 to them, but now I'm stuck they're up there and will not give up no matter what I try, they always know where I am . To add to that there's a V&W up there too circling.

They don't have any depth charges left, but they refuse to give up.

Right now I'm making a dash for deeper water.

I'm going to need some help to get out of this one,

[Weiss Pinguin]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!


As Vendor said drop to 2 knots and zigzag. Even if they ping and drop DCs on you just keep going as much as you can and dive when you get to deeper water.

[K-61]

And the lesson is........................?

Don't get caught in shallow water.

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by K-61

And the lesson is........................?

Don't get caught in shallow water.

I have zero sympathy for people who get sunk in shallow water. They flat out deserve it (and, yes, I have always deserved it).

The U-boat's only advantage is its ability to work in a 3-dimensional space. When you go into 30 m waters, you've just made yourself a very slow Elco torpedo boat that can be found and sunk by a wet-behind-the-ears midshipman.

In real life, the first question a board of inquiry would pose is not "How did you get out of it," but "Why did you let yourself into that situation?"

[Brag]

Fat in ze hell you iz doink in shallow water?

Well for one its a game and if he lets himself get into situations like such enough he will eventually develop a way to get out. Which is something most people dont have, since they fear the shallows, yes its incredibly hard, and yes you handicap yourself, but if you have enough knowledge and skill (because of past experience since its a game) to beat a destroyer or 2 by either getting away or even sinking one or two in shallow waters, then my friend you have a skill that not many people have and it is a valuable one. Many peoples motto that I see is "Be More Aggresive" that alone can get you into a crapshoot of circumstances

(You see a convoy far off, whats this inside?? Oh it happens to be a carrier and battleship. Hmmmmmm what would you do?? because by most peoples motto, and surely Id try just for the heck of it, theyd go after them)

Keeping in mind, no matter what situation your in, there is always and I mean that always a counter/ way out. The trick is finding them and getting good enough at executing them

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

I have zero sympathy for people who get sunk in shallow water. They flat out deserve it (and, yes, I have always deserved it).

The U-boat's only advantage is its ability to work in a 3-dimensional space. When you go into 30 m waters, you've just made yourself a very slow Elco torpedo boat that can be found and sunk by a wet-behind-the-ears midshipman.

In real life, the first question a board of inquiry would pose is not "How did you get out of it," but "Why did you let yourself into that situation?"

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

I have zero sympathy for people who get sunk in shallow water. They flat out deserve it (and, yes, I have always deserved it).

The U-boat's only advantage is its ability to work in a 3-dimensional space. When you go into 30 m waters, you've just made yourself a very slow Elco torpedo boat that can be found and sunk by a wet-behind-the-ears midshipman.

In real life, the first question a board of inquiry would pose is not "How did you get out of it," but "Why did you let yourself into that situation?"

Obviously you have never recreated any patrols during the Inshore Campaign, August 1944 to April 1945. 90 metres of water is a priceless gift, 30 metres is sometimes unavoidable. For the Type VII's the operation was a massacre but by then it was all a bankrupt BdU had left for a strategy.

Earlier in the war though, agree with you 100%!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

Well for one its a game and if he lets himself get into situations like such enough he will eventually develop a way to get out. Which is something most people dont have, since they fear the shallows,

So we should 'play the game' rather than try to behave realistically? They feared the shallows because the shallows were dangerous, and they didn't have the luxury of playing real life over and over until they got it right.

Many peoples motto that I see is "Be More Aggresive" that alone can get you into a crapshoot of circumstances

Actually that is nobody's motto. The stock game gives you that message every time you file a report, and it has become a running joke, which is why you see it all the time.

We used to get threads with things like "I shot down 52 planes before they finally got me". Sometimes I think the motto "If I die I put the game on a shelf and don't play it for a year" would make people be a little more careful.

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

Obviously you have never recreated any patrols during the Inshore Campaign, August 1944 to April 1945. 90 metres of water is a priceless gift, 30 metres is sometimes unavoidable. For the Type VII's the operation was a massacre but by then it was all a bankrupt BdU had left for a strategy.

Earlier in the war though, agree with you 100%!

We agree, I think. Once you have had to live in 30m waters on BdU orders late in the war, you'll never go pooting around in them early in the war.

[JokerOfFate]

The only reason I was in shallows was because I was ordered to patrol there.

But I managed to escape with a bit of luck and skill, leaving the score
3 all nice to know I'm pulling back

[PhantomLord]

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

We agree, I think. Once you have had to live in 30m waters on BdU orders late in the war, you'll never go pooting around in them early in the war.

Not true... in real life´s early years of the war some boats were ordered to scout the bay and inlets of northern scotland. Kaleun Kretschmer had several "creeping through the shallows" mission when he was in command of U-23 (Type IIB).

Anyway... in SH3 i try to avoid the shallows as good as i can. Dont love crashing into the mud while crash diving.