Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers

Aramike · 08-30-10, 02:54 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/0859920...Vhdnlkcmlua2Vy

Pretty interesting stuff, here. I wouldn't consider myself a heavy drinker, but now and then I like to hit the sauce - great for relaxation and social livelyhood and all that.

Now to find that maybe I'm not drinking enough???

PS: I guess Dowly's gonna live forver.

Takeda Shingen · 08-30-10, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

PS: I guess Dowly's gonna live forver.

I got halfway through the article and was going to post that.

Tchocky · 08-30-10, 03:05 PM

hic

Bilge_Rat · 08-30-10, 03:21 PM

3 drinks a day every day is moderate?

no need to feel guilty then!

Gorduz · 08-30-10, 03:27 PM

After finishing my Physics degree I took a year studing pedagogics, and read several papers using regression analysis to find correlation between sociological parameters like grades and family income. After seeing what you can come up with I have lost my faith in regression analysis as a scientific tool unless its used in conjuction with some repeated experiment.

This is a classical example, note in specific the line:

"But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on"

Since you only can account for almost all variables but not all I do have trouble believing it. The important part is the causal explanation offered. Is it sound?

In this case it actually might be a sound explenation:

One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.

But actually most people I know who abstains are more social than my average friend, so I don't think this will apply for them anyway

Aramike · 08-30-10, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

hic

Well done.

Aramike · 08-30-10, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorduz

After finishing my Physics degree I took a year studing pedagogics, and read several papers using regression analysis to find correlation between sociological parameters like grades and family income. After seeing what you can come up with I have lost my faith in regression analysis as a scientific tool unless its used in conjuction with some repeated experiment.

This is a classical example, note in specific the line:

"But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on"

Since you only can account for almost all variables but not all I do have trouble believing it. The important part is the causal explanation offered. Is it sound?

In this case it actually might be a sound explenation:

One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.

But actually most people I know who abstains are more social than my average friend, so I don't think this will apply for them anyway

Buzzkill.

Just kidding.

In all seriousness, that was the point that stuck out most to me as well.

DarkFish · 08-30-10, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers

Oh, in that case I'm gonna be okay for the next 100 years

frau kaleun · 08-30-10, 06:20 PM

Not to change the subject, guys, but I need your thoughts and prayers ASAP. I'm having a major health emergency.

I just checked the fridge and there's only one beer left.

08-30-10, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Not to change the subject, guys, but I need your thoughts and prayers ASAP. I'm having a major health emergency.

I just checked the fridge and there's only one beer left.

stay calm and call 911 right away

we will pray for you

things always last longer when they are pickled so this article makes sense

frau kaleun · 08-30-10, 06:36 PM

I think it will be enough to keep me alive until I can get to the store tomorrow.

But payday's not until Wednesday, and I don't think my health plan is gonna cover this as a routine preventive expense.

Curse you, greedy bean counters!

yubba · 08-30-10, 06:37 PM

Gee sure picked a bad time too quit drinkin, spent many a good year to get rid of this tavern tumor from my waist.

UnderseaLcpl · 08-30-10, 06:55 PM

I've been saying this for years but my doctor doesn't believe me. She'd rather say things like "James, you can't drink that much without incurring serious negative consequences" and other assorted medical technobabble.

Takeda Shingen · 08-30-10, 07:03 PM

Hr. Hibbert: Homer, you've ingested a dangerous amount of alcohol.

Homer (sluring): The only dangerous amount of alcohol is none.

Aramike · 08-30-10, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hr. Hibbert: Homer, you've ingested a dangerous amount of alcohol.

Homer (sluring): The only dangerous amount of alcohol is none.

Homer: Alcohol - the cause of and solution to all of life's problems!

08-30-10, 02:54 PM	#1
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/0859920...Vhdnlkcmlua2Vy Pretty interesting stuff, here. I wouldn't consider myself a heavy drinker, but now and then I like to hit the sauce - great for relaxation and social livelyhood and all that. Now to find that maybe I'm not drinking enough??? PS: I guess Dowly's gonna live forver.

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	3 drinks a day every day is moderate? no need to feel guilty then! __________________

08-30-10, 03:27 PM	#5
Gorduz Engineer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 210 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Regression analysis After finishing my Physics degree I took a year studing pedagogics, and read several papers using regression analysis to find correlation between sociological parameters like grades and family income. After seeing what you can come up with I have lost my faith in regression analysis as a scientific tool unless its used in conjuction with some repeated experiment. This is a classical example, note in specific the line: "But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on" Since you only can account for almost all variables but not all I do have trouble believing it. The important part is the causal explanation offered. Is it sound? In this case it actually might be a sound explenation: One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party. But actually most people I know who abstains are more social than my average friend, so I don't think this will apply for them anyway __________________ 21. MTB skv. Attacks without warning.

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've been saying this for years but my doctor doesn't believe me. She'd rather say things like "James, you can't drink that much without incurring serious negative consequences" and other assorted medical technobabble. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Not to change the subject, guys, but I need your thoughts and prayers ASAP. I'm having a major health emergency. I just checked the fridge and there's only one beer left.

08-30-10, 06:36 PM	#11
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I think it will be enough to keep me alive until I can get to the store tomorrow. But payday's not until Wednesday, and I don't think my health plan is gonna cover this as a routine preventive expense. Curse you, greedy bean counters!

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Gee sure picked a bad time too quit drinkin, spent many a good year to get rid of this tavern tumor from my waist.

08-30-10, 07:03 PM	#14
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hr. Hibbert: Homer, you've ingested a dangerous amount of alcohol. Homer (sluring): The only dangerous amount of alcohol is none.