Is the cold war really over?

AVGWarhawk · 08-27-10, 10:06 PM

Russian submarines are hunting down British Vanguard boats in a return to Cold War tactics not seen for 25 years, Navy chiefs have warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-Cold-War.html

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 10:13 PM

Huh. So Ivan is back. The patter of DW mission designers' feet can be heard as they scamper off to their consoles.

AVGWarhawk · 08-27-10, 10:13 PM

Good one!

Gerald · 08-27-10, 10:16 PM

but in theory it's another thing,it is well known that major powers with sub-Nukes are playing with each other,and this is a longstanding one and will remain so,but other players without having Nukes is in play.

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 10:29 PM

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Good one!

Hey, it gave me a few ideas myself so, awesome.

ETR3(SS) · 08-27-10, 10:37 PM

As a former Trident sailor, I learned that the Cold War never ended. While the world rejoiced at the fall of communism, nothing really changed except for the name of one of the players.

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

As a former Trident sailor, I learned that the Cold War never ended. While the world rejoiced at the fall of communism, nothing really changed except for the name of one of the players.

Hmm. I would ask you to tell more about your post-Cold War patrol expriences, as the subject interests me greatly, but I suspect that you can't without risking time in prison.

AVGWarhawk · 08-27-10, 10:41 PM

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As a former Trident sailor, I learned that the Cold War never ended. While the world rejoiced at the fall of communism, nothing really changed except for the name of one of the players.

From what I understand the cat and mouse games never really stopped.

ETR3(SS) · 08-27-10, 10:43 PM

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Hmm. I would ask you to tell more about your post-Cold War patrol expriences, as the subject interests me greatly, but I suspect that you can't without risking time in prison.

You can always ask, and if I can't tell you I won't.

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 10:48 PM

Well, okay. What I really want to ask is if the USN was still conducting missile partols up to the internationally-recognized 3-mile limit of territorial waters. I am sure that you cannot tell me that, though.

Aside from that, were you SubLant or SubPac? And is the GIUK Gap still an epicenter of submarine ops like it was in the 70's and 80?

It's all good if you can't tell me.

ETR3(SS) · 08-27-10, 10:59 PM

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Well, okay. What I really want to ask is if the USN was still conducting missile partols up to the internationally-recognized 3-mile limit of territorial waters. I am sure that you cannot tell me that, though.

To that I'll say the Federation of American Scientists lists the range of a Trident II missile in excess of 4k NM. Also I'm not a Golden Dragon.

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Aside from that, were you SubLant or SubPac?

SubPac, Group 9, Squadron 17

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And is the GIUK Gap still an epicenter of submarine ops like it was in the 70's and 80?

Not being in the Lant or on a fast attack I really couldn't say, but I don't see why that would change any.

yubba · 08-27-10, 11:11 PM

Here at Cape Canaveral Fl ,I was wondering why, I was seeing more P-3s up , almost daily now after along time lull.

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 11:16 PM

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To that I'll say the Federation of American Scientists lists the range of a Trident II missile in excess of 4k NM. Also I'm not a Golden Dragon.

Ahhh. Thanks ETR.

I am always envious of real bubbleheads.

ETR3(SS) · 08-27-10, 11:23 PM

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Ahhh. Thanks ETR.

I am always envious of real bubbleheads.

No problem, anytime. Feel free to PM me if you want as well.

Gerald · 08-27-10, 11:24 PM

08-27-10, 10:06 PM	#1
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Is the cold war really over? Russian submarines are hunting down British Vanguard boats in a return to Cold War tactics not seen for 25 years, Navy chiefs have warned. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-Cold-War.html __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Good one! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	If you look at it in practical terms it is over, but in theory it's another thing,it is well known that major powers with sub-Nukes are playing with each other,and this is a longstanding one and will remain so,but other players without having Nukes is in play. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	As a former Trident sailor, I learned that the Cold War never ended. While the world rejoiced at the fall of communism, nothing really changed except for the name of one of the players. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Huh. So Ivan is back. The patter of DW mission designers' feet can be heard as they scamper off to their consoles.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Well, okay. What I really want to ask is if the USN was still conducting missile partols up to the internationally-recognized 3-mile limit of territorial waters. I am sure that you cannot tell me that, though. Aside from that, were you SubLant or SubPac? And is the GIUK Gap still an epicenter of submarine ops like it was in the 70's and 80? It's all good if you can't tell me.

08-27-10, 11:11 PM	#12
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Here at Cape Canaveral Fl ,I was wondering why, I was seeing more P-3s up , almost daily now after along time lull.