Is the cold war really over?
 

Russian submarines are hunting down British Vanguard boats in a return to Cold War tactics not seen for 25 years, Navy chiefs have warned.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-Cold-War.html

Huh. So Ivan is back. The patter of DW mission designers' feet can be heard as they scamper off to their consoles.

:har: Good one!

If you look at it in practical terms it is over,
 

but in theory it's another thing,it is well known that major powers with sub-Nukes are playing with each other,and this is a longstanding one and will remain so,but other players without having Nukes is in play.

Hey, it gave me a few ideas myself so, awesome. :up:

As a former Trident sailor, I learned that the Cold War never ended. While the world rejoiced at the fall of communism, nothing really changed except for the name of one of the players.

Hmm. I would ask you to tell more about your post-Cold War patrol expriences, as the subject interests me greatly, but I suspect that you can't without risking time in prison.

From what I understand the cat and mouse games never really stopped.

You can always ask, and if I can't tell you I won't.:03:

Well, okay. What I really want to ask is if the USN was still conducting missile partols up to the internationally-recognized 3-mile limit of territorial waters. I am sure that you cannot tell me that, though.

Aside from that, were you SubLant or SubPac? And is the GIUK Gap still an epicenter of submarine ops like it was in the 70's and 80?

It's all good if you can't tell me.

To that I'll say the Federation of American Scientists lists the range of a Trident II missile in excess of 4k NM. Also I'm not a Golden Dragon.:03:

SubPac, Group 9, Squadron 17

Not being in the Lant or on a fast attack I really couldn't say, but I don't see why that would change any.

Here at Cape Canaveral Fl ,I was wondering why, I was seeing more P-3s up , almost daily now after along time lull.

Ahhh. Thanks ETR. :up: I am always envious of real bubbleheads.

No problem, anytime. Feel free to PM me if you want as well.:up: