Scapa Flow GRRRRRRR!

ChrisD · 04-08-10, 08:05 PM

So I just downloaded SH3 (after much time enjoying SH2, AoD, etc). I'm at 79% realism (not ready to id and manual TDC yet). I was assigned to the map sector that contains Scapa Flow. There are no instructions other than what sector to patrol, so I figure this is my opportunity to pull Gunter Prien's legendary feat. I end up making it all the way in (2 DDs sunk, many others eager to meet me) with only a couple of torpedos left. What do I find?? NOTHING. Not a single capital ship to be found. What's the deal?!?!?! I tried to shell the Scapa Flow lighthouse, and hit it perfectly, but the light continued to shine.

Also, when I sank one DD, it ended up sitting vertical in the water, with its nose on the bottom (very shallow water), then it just disappeared. I was going to use it for cover, but it vanished as soon as the nose hit the mud. Is there any way to keep sinking ships around a bit longer if part of them is still on th surface?

Also, my auto TDC seems to do a terrible job. I read about opening the doors, which I'll try, but I found two HUGE convoys and missed all but one shot. Is there a secret to torpedo setttings in very rough weather? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
CD

timmy41 · 04-08-10, 08:13 PM

In very rough weather, you may want to input the speed yourself based on the average speed of the ships. this is because the ships speeds will change by a good 2 knots in either direction as they push through the waves. your officer will instantly and perfectly input that change in speed, and if you fire while the speed is even a knot or so off, thats a good 300m you can miss at your average engagement range.

I have not snuck into scapa flow yet, but i tried it and was chased off by a task force that happened to be RTBing while i was entering, lol. I did pause it and use the camera to look around inside it though, and for some reason the land wasnt rendering, there were flaming ships everywhere, and everything looked just darn weird. I know that land wont render beyond a certain from your uboot(distance 25k i think?) but i was only a few kilometers outside it.

I havent had any problems with ships disappearing, but i have had them not sink all the way in shallow water. If i remember correctly from the GWX, you unfortunately dont get credit unless the whole ship sinks.

Buddahaid · 04-08-10, 08:21 PM

I've done that in SH2 but haven't tried in SH3. Here's a wiki on it that shows where he entered through the block ships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Prien

timmy41 · 04-08-10, 08:45 PM

also
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167025

04-08-10, 10:15 PM

Q opens the selected torpedo doors.
W closes them.

You can also go to the Weapons Officer's station (near the overhead) to open them all yourself. BUT, remember to close any unused doors before going deeper than 20 Meters.

pickinthebanjo · 04-09-10, 01:51 AM

With GWX the ports are more busy

timmy41 · 04-09-10, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo

With GWX the ports are more busy

optional light harbor traffic mod

pickinthebanjo · 04-09-10, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy41

optional light harbor traffic mod

Yeah and theres that. I meant enemy ports though.

Jimbuna · 04-09-10, 06:34 AM

Welcome aboard ChrisD

It is pointless trying to hide behind half sunk ships in SH3 because the ships sensors can still 'see' you.

Ships cease to be rendered/viewable when they are destroyed (but not usually until they sink completely)

You might want to consider giving GWX3.0 a gp.....the files are available from my FF account (link above my sig) and there are comprehensive installation instructaions available at the GWX website 9click on my sig).

GWX also comes with a very comprehensive manual.

04-08-10, 08:05 PM	#1
ChrisD Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Scapa Flow GRRRRRRR! So I just downloaded SH3 (after much time enjoying SH2, AoD, etc). I'm at 79% realism (not ready to id and manual TDC yet). I was assigned to the map sector that contains Scapa Flow. There are no instructions other than what sector to patrol, so I figure this is my opportunity to pull Gunter Prien's legendary feat. I end up making it all the way in (2 DDs sunk, many others eager to meet me) with only a couple of torpedos left. What do I find?? NOTHING. Not a single capital ship to be found. What's the deal?!?!?! I tried to shell the Scapa Flow lighthouse, and hit it perfectly, but the light continued to shine. Also, when I sank one DD, it ended up sitting vertical in the water, with its nose on the bottom (very shallow water), then it just disappeared. I was going to use it for cover, but it vanished as soon as the nose hit the mud. Is there any way to keep sinking ships around a bit longer if part of them is still on th surface? Also, my auto TDC seems to do a terrible job. I read about opening the doors, which I'll try, but I found two HUGE convoys and missed all but one shot. Is there a secret to torpedo setttings in very rough weather? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks CD

04-08-10, 08:21 PM	#3
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I've done that in SH2 but haven't tried in SH3. Here's a wiki on it that shows where he entered through the block ships. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Prien __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

04-09-10, 06:34 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard ChrisD It is pointless trying to hide behind half sunk ships in SH3 because the ships sensors can still 'see' you. Ships cease to be rendered/viewable when they are destroyed (but not usually until they sink completely) You might want to consider giving GWX3.0 a gp.....the files are available from my FF account (link above my sig) and there are comprehensive installation instructaions available at the GWX website 9click on my sig). GWX also comes with a very comprehensive manual. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-08-10, 08:13 PM	#2
timmy41 Weps Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 367 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	In very rough weather, you may want to input the speed yourself based on the average speed of the ships. this is because the ships speeds will change by a good 2 knots in either direction as they push through the waves. your officer will instantly and perfectly input that change in speed, and if you fire while the speed is even a knot or so off, thats a good 300m you can miss at your average engagement range. I have not snuck into scapa flow yet, but i tried it and was chased off by a task force that happened to be RTBing while i was entering, lol. I did pause it and use the camera to look around inside it though, and for some reason the land wasnt rendering, there were flaming ships everywhere, and everything looked just darn weird. I know that land wont render beyond a certain from your uboot(distance 25k i think?) but i was only a few kilometers outside it. I havent had any problems with ships disappearing, but i have had them not sink all the way in shallow water. If i remember correctly from the GWX, you unfortunately dont get credit unless the whole ship sinks.

04-08-10, 08:45 PM	#4
timmy41 Weps Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 367 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	also http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167025

04-08-10, 10:15 PM	#5
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Q opens the selected torpedo doors. W closes them. You can also go to the Weapons Officer's station (near the overhead) to open them all yourself. BUT, remember to close any unused doors before going deeper than 20 Meters.

04-09-10, 01:51 AM	#6
pickinthebanjo Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 651 Downloads: 282 Uploads: 0	With GWX the ports are more busy