[REQ] Higher Gun & Torpedo Damage

Darkreaver1980 · 03-06-10, 05:16 PM

Hi there,

i think its pretty frustrating to shot 10-40 times at any merchant till he sinks, i even aim below the water line. I often just order my deckgun crew to shot target and use time compression because its just boring if you need that many hits. Same with the torps, sometimes i need up to 5 torps to sink a normal merchant?

Would be nice if someone could tripple the gun damage and maybe double the torpedo damage.

Pascal · 03-06-10, 06:08 PM

agree !

zer00 · 03-06-10, 08:03 PM

I too would like to see this done. A steamer shouldn't take more than two torpedoes ever.

Though it may not be just the weapon's fault. I hit a merchant ship with a salvo on a patrol earlier. The rear or the ship broke off and sank. Did not go down even when I fired an additional torp into the mid section. It seems to me more often than not ships will sit around with massive damage (like half of the ship underwater with the keel sticking out or sort of capsizing) and nothing happens. Despite being mostly flooded it doesn't sink. The few destroyers I've hit had shown these symptoms the worst.

killpo1 · 03-06-10, 08:15 PM

It's fairly weird the damage system, Try adjusting the depth of your torpedoes and see if you can basically hit the keel of the ship, this will generally snap it in half. But yeah i know what you mean 60 ap rounds into the back of a ship *it was an armed merchant poor thing doesn't have guns facing its back* and a lot of them hit the prop and did no damage, also the fact I Hit a tanker with HE after HE Shell in its tank compartment and no big fireball.
It is also fairly wierd in the sense that i've gotten a 1 torpedo kill on a 16 k ton Ship, while it takes me like 2-3 torpedo's for a 7k ton merchant.

KodiakPA · 03-06-10, 08:38 PM

Yes please!!!

vonce1 · 03-06-10, 08:56 PM

I'd also agree I guess; for instance, for Hog Island Type A Freighter (4077 tons) I generally need 3 torps to send her to the bottom. But, maybe if I stayed around and observed for some time, she'd sink as well after only 2 hits? BTW I usually set my torp depth to 5 meters.

Capt.Warner · 03-06-10, 09:50 PM

For a 5000 ton Merchant it took 3 torpedoes,not right.

gutted · 03-06-10, 10:33 PM

My experiences so far:

7,000 ton tanker is taking me 4 fish (sometimes 3).

Smaller ships are taking me 3 (somtimes 2). I usually just put in one or two, and finish it off with the gun.

But...

Last night i got lucky sunk a 16,000 ton troop transport with only 1 torpedo, and he went down FAST. I was shocked. Those normally take 4. I must have hit the nuclear reactor LOL.

CaptainHaplo · 03-07-10, 01:00 AM

Set your depths so that you get a keel breaker - even if it doesnt break the keel your going to have enough damage where another torp WILL break the keel.

Note - I can't actually test this (dont have the game yet) - but its SUPPOSED to work that way. SH4 did get a "keel" fix - though I don't remember if that was a mod or patch.

Since SH5 works on the SH4/SH3 engine - there is a good chance that Silent 3ditor will work on the files. If I had the game I would pop out a quick mod for this provided the files are similiar. Check the SH3/SH4 mod threads for info on how to do it yourself if no one makes one.

Alternatively - if someone wants to pm me and email the specific files - I can check and mod them and send them back for testing (easy to make it JSGME compatible if you can tell me the full location). Worst case is it might not work.....

I admit - I am wishing they would just ditch OSP so I could tet this game and start modding. Once I do get it - I will create a Nuke Boat mod for it (as I did for SH5) since the "make it easier" mods are usually the ones that most first timers want.

gutted · 03-07-10, 01:33 AM

In SH3, i would almost always set about 2m deeper than the keel of the ship and break ships in half.

In SH4, i never had any success with under the keel magnetic shots. They either hit the hull, or sailed right under neath with no detonation.

I've not tested it yet in SH5 yet. I'm so used to SHIV that i've written them off completely. Will try it on the next ship.

remowilliams · 03-07-10, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Set your depths so that you get a keel breaker - even if it doesnt break the keel your going to have enough damage where another torp WILL break the keel.

I always set torp depth, but I've had very few keel breaker shots (I've had a bunch pass what must be a hairy half inch under keel without detonating

).

But I rarely have to use more than two torps to sink average merchant prey, even if intact.

Drifter · 03-07-10, 02:38 AM

Torp mod released. See here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163646

kylania · 03-07-10, 02:39 AM

So I just sunk a Victory Cargo with just my deck gun. However the silly thing is, I started shooting 8km out! Had him mostly dead by the time I was 4km away and got the kill shot at 2800m. Poor thing never knew what hit him. I came roaring in at flank speed.

Hilarious!

03-06-10, 05:16 PM	#1
Darkreaver1980 Loader Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 83 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	[REQ] Higher Gun & Torpedo Damage Hi there, i think its pretty frustrating to shot 10-40 times at any merchant till he sinks, i even aim below the water line. I often just order my deckgun crew to shot target and use time compression because its just boring if you need that many hits. Same with the torps, sometimes i need up to 5 torps to sink a normal merchant? Would be nice if someone could tripple the gun damage and maybe double the torpedo damage. __________________ SH 5 mods: Critical hits for torpedos Critical hits for deckgun Last edited by Webster; 03-06-10 at 06:18 PM.

03-06-10, 06:08 PM	#2
Pascal Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Paris Posts: 588 Downloads: 574 Uploads: 0	agree ! __________________ My Mods

03-06-10, 08:38 PM	#5
KodiakPA Gunner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Patroling Puget Sound Posts: 95 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yes please!!! __________________ "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so...very...pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die." -Mal - Firefly

03-06-10, 08:56 PM	#6
vonce1 A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: So. California Posts: 79 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I'd also agree I guess; for instance, for Hog Island Type A Freighter (4077 tons) I generally need 3 torps to send her to the bottom. But, maybe if I stayed around and observed for some time, she'd sink as well after only 2 hits? BTW I usually set my torp depth to 5 meters. __________________

03-06-10, 09:50 PM	#7
Capt.Warner Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 262 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	For a 5000 ton Merchant it took 3 torpedoes,not right. __________________

03-06-10, 08:03 PM	#3
zer00 Bilge Rat Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I too would like to see this done. A steamer shouldn't take more than two torpedoes ever. Though it may not be just the weapon's fault. I hit a merchant ship with a salvo on a patrol earlier. The rear or the ship broke off and sank. Did not go down even when I fired an additional torp into the mid section. It seems to me more often than not ships will sit around with massive damage (like half of the ship underwater with the keel sticking out or sort of capsizing) and nothing happens. Despite being mostly flooded it doesn't sink. The few destroyers I've hit had shown these symptoms the worst.

03-06-10, 08:15 PM	#4
killpo1 Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's fairly weird the damage system, Try adjusting the depth of your torpedoes and see if you can basically hit the keel of the ship, this will generally snap it in half. But yeah i know what you mean 60 ap rounds into the back of a ship it was an armed merchant poor thing doesn't have guns facing its back and a lot of them hit the prop and did no damage, also the fact I Hit a tanker with HE after HE Shell in its tank compartment and no big fireball. It is also fairly wierd in the sense that i've gotten a 1 torpedo kill on a 16 k ton Ship, while it takes me like 2-3 torpedo's for a 7k ton merchant.

03-06-10, 10:33 PM	#8
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	My experiences so far: 7,000 ton tanker is taking me 4 fish (sometimes 3). Smaller ships are taking me 3 (somtimes 2). I usually just put in one or two, and finish it off with the gun. But... Last night i got lucky sunk a 16,000 ton troop transport with only 1 torpedo, and he went down FAST. I was shocked. Those normally take 4. I must have hit the nuclear reactor LOL.

03-07-10, 01:00 AM	#9
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Set your depths so that you get a keel breaker - even if it doesnt break the keel your going to have enough damage where another torp WILL break the keel. Note - I can't actually test this (dont have the game yet) - but its SUPPOSED to work that way. SH4 did get a "keel" fix - though I don't remember if that was a mod or patch. Since SH5 works on the SH4/SH3 engine - there is a good chance that Silent 3ditor will work on the files. If I had the game I would pop out a quick mod for this provided the files are similiar. Check the SH3/SH4 mod threads for info on how to do it yourself if no one makes one. Alternatively - if someone wants to pm me and email the specific files - I can check and mod them and send them back for testing (easy to make it JSGME compatible if you can tell me the full location). Worst case is it might not work..... I admit - I am wishing they would just ditch OSP so I could tet this game and start modding. Once I do get it - I will create a Nuke Boat mod for it (as I did for SH5) since the "make it easier" mods are usually the ones that most first timers want. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-07-10, 01:33 AM	#10
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	In SH3, i would almost always set about 2m deeper than the keel of the ship and break ships in half. In SH4, i never had any success with under the keel magnetic shots. They either hit the hull, or sailed right under neath with no detonation. I've not tested it yet in SH5 yet. I'm so used to SHIV that i've written them off completely. Will try it on the next ship.

03-07-10, 02:38 AM	#12
Drifter Frogman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 308 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Torp mod released. See here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163646

03-07-10, 02:39 AM	#13
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	So I just sunk a Victory Cargo with just my deck gun. However the silly thing is, I started shooting 8km out! Had him mostly dead by the time I was 4km away and got the kill shot at 2800m. Poor thing never knew what hit him. I came roaring in at flank speed. Hilarious! __________________