How do you determine "Rudder" Input w/ new interface...???

Charlie901 · 03-03-10, 09:29 AM

I liked the guage that constantly displays where and how far your rudder is deflected....

Now all I can guess is you use the keyboard keys and unless you command "Full" Right/Left Rudder you have no idea of how much your rudder is deflected and how much you are turning without looking at the nav map or horizon.

Is there some other display I'm missing?

Thanks!

Clay Fever · 03-03-10, 09:31 AM

I have the same problem its very frustrating.

Lt commander lare · 03-03-10, 09:51 AM

use shift and the arrow keys for hard a starbard or hard to port but hold the shift down while pressing the arrow keys

lt commander lare

mookiemookie · 03-03-10, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt commander lare

use shift and the arrow keys for hard a starbard or hard to port but hold the shift down while pressing the arrow keys

lt commander lare

Understood, but the question was where is the gauge that displays how far port or starboard your rudder currently is.

kylania · 03-03-10, 09:56 AM

There isn't one as far as anyone's found.

Personally I mapped a key to HeadingToView and simply look where I want to go and trigger that. Once I'm on course I RudderAmidships.

piri_reis · 03-03-10, 10:30 AM

Yeah it's the most retarded interface for a subsim.
No compass, no rudder control gauge, tdc/map updates borked, etc, etc...
Almost painful to play in stock form

urfisch · 03-03-10, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Yeah it's the most retarded interface for a subsim.
No compass, no rudder control gauge, tdc/map updates borked, etc, etc...
Almost painful to play in stock form

right. it is...but the devs said, we can srcipt the interface easily to our needs.

03-03-10, 11:36 AM

I could sware i saw that guage working in the con.tower and control room in one of the videos...

SteamWake · 03-03-10, 12:40 PM

No indicators at the helm stations?

Bilge_Rat · 03-03-10, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav87th

I could sware i saw that guage working in the con.tower and control room in one of the videos...

excellent point, since the Devs have gone to the trouble of modelling the full 3d interior of a Type VII, maybe we could just do like the real U-boatmen and just read the dial...

...just have to find it...

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-10, 02:48 PM

Yes, my first post. Yes, I am a modder. Been tailoring SH3/SH4 to my likes since they came out. But this SH5 is a freakin mess - this is totally unacceptable

Where's the freakin manual? That PDF they included is pure sh*t

There is a way to enable the SH3/SH4 style controls everyone is familiar with. I've successfully enabled them but it's not even close to being perfect yet.
Their is left over code from SH4 that the devs used scripts to 'hide' their blunders. WTF?!?!?!?! Sorry you all, but this is an unfinished product that we are beta testing and going to have to fix.
I can see where the battery levels, O2, etc. are but it's all FUBAR! It's going to take a lot of work to get this right. I'm rewriting some of the page files and scripts to try and sort things out and get stuff working.
Back to work fixing a broken game

I'll try and post some screenshots showing that yes, it is possible to add these later.

Charlie901 · 03-03-10, 02:54 PM

Without the rudder guage or compas it's impossible to have any idea what your turn rate is underwater without constantly watching the Nav Map.

Totally unaccenptable and unrealistic for a retail release version #5 in the series if you ask me!!!!

John Channing · 03-03-10, 03:15 PM

So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable?

Got it!

JCC

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-10, 04:28 PM

notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4.....

Still sorting things out.....

piri_reis · 03-03-10, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4.....

Still sorting things out.....

Nice!

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03-03-10, 09:29 AM	#1
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	How do you determine "Rudder" Input w/ new interface...??? I liked the guage that constantly displays where and how far your rudder is deflected.... Now all I can guess is you use the keyboard keys and unless you command "Full" Right/Left Rudder you have no idea of how much your rudder is deflected and how much you are turning without looking at the nav map or horizon. Is there some other display I'm missing? Thanks! Last edited by Charlie901; 03-03-10 at 02:59 PM.

03-03-10, 10:30 AM	#6
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Yeah it's the most retarded interface for a subsim. No compass, no rudder control gauge, tdc/map updates borked, etc, etc... Almost painful to play in stock form __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

03-03-10, 12:40 PM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No indicators at the helm stations? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-03-10, 09:31 AM	#2
Clay Fever Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I have the same problem its very frustrating.

03-03-10, 09:51 AM	#3
Lt commander lare Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southlyon michigan Posts: 897 Downloads: 781 Uploads: 35	use shift and the arrow keys for hard a starbard or hard to port but hold the shift down while pressing the arrow keys lt commander lare

03-03-10, 09:56 AM	#5
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	There isn't one as far as anyone's found. Personally I mapped a key to HeadingToView and simply look where I want to go and trigger that. Once I'm on course I RudderAmidships. __________________

03-03-10, 11:36 AM	#8
Mav87th Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I could sware i saw that guage working in the con.tower and control room in one of the videos...

03-03-10, 02:48 PM	#11
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Yes, my first post. Yes, I am a modder. Been tailoring SH3/SH4 to my likes since they came out. But this SH5 is a freakin mess - this is totally unacceptable Where's the freakin manual? That PDF they included is pure sh*t There is a way to enable the SH3/SH4 style controls everyone is familiar with. I've successfully enabled them but it's not even close to being perfect yet. Their is left over code from SH4 that the devs used scripts to 'hide' their blunders. WTF?!?!?!?! Sorry you all, but this is an unfinished product that we are beta testing and going to have to fix. I can see where the battery levels, O2, etc. are but it's all FUBAR! It's going to take a lot of work to get this right. I'm rewriting some of the page files and scripts to try and sort things out and get stuff working. Back to work fixing a broken game I'll try and post some screenshots showing that yes, it is possible to add these later.

03-03-10, 02:54 PM	#12
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Without the rudder guage or compas it's impossible to have any idea what your turn rate is underwater without constantly watching the Nav Map. Totally unaccenptable and unrealistic for a retail release version #5 in the series if you ask me!!!!

03-03-10, 03:15 PM	#13
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable? Got it! JCC

03-03-10, 04:28 PM	#14
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4..... Still sorting things out.....