How Do Pirates Hack a Game ?

FIREWALL · 02-17-10, 12:24 PM

Don't they have to buy it first so they have something to work with ?

btw I don't want the mechanics of hacking.

onelifecrisis · 02-17-10, 12:28 PM

In before PERMABAN

Heretic · 02-17-10, 12:28 PM

Games get cracked so quickly, I've always wondered if they occasionally get their hands on a review copy.

FIREWALL · 02-17-10, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

Games get cracked so quickly, I've always wondered if they occasionally get their hands on a review copy.

Thank you Heritic for an intelligent response.

If they get their hands on a Preview copy Ubisoft has dropped the ball imo.

Nisgeis · 02-17-10, 12:38 PM

Exactly, everytime a game is available as an illegal download before the game is released, then it's been leaked from the industry. With security like that, the games industry is killing itself and punishing the group of people who couldn't possible have been responsible (the buyers) is even more insane.

Physician heal thyself!

Even if they don't get a preview version (for FREE!!!) they can just borrow one from someone, or even buy it. To them though, the game is the challenge of cracking the game, not the game itself. They do it for the prestige. Anytime you say your copy protection is uncrackable, then... let's just say 'red rag, bull, bull, red rag. How do you do?'

Heretic · 02-17-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Thank you Heritic for an intelligent response.

it was purely accidental, I assure you

Q3ark · 02-17-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Exactly, everytime a game is available as an illegal download before the game is released, then it's been leaked from the industry. With security like that, the games industry is killing itself and punishing the group of people who couldn't possible have been responsible (the buyers) is even more insane.

Physician heal thyself!

Yes you have a valid point there. Perhaps they should start to restrict which review sites get preview copies of games??

Brag · 02-17-10, 12:53 PM

Climbing on board before blood flows. Wanna watch move, ban or whatever

piri_reis · 02-17-10, 01:00 PM

EDIT: Naa, forget it

FIREWALL · 02-17-10, 01:13 PM

Again I want to thank the ones with intelligent, adult responses.

@piri Sorry you felt you needed to edit your post.

It was very informative.

mookiemookie · 02-17-10, 01:13 PM

Sometimes the games are leaked by people who work in the DVD manufacturing plants.

FIREWALL · 02-17-10, 01:20 PM

I honestly think it;s going to be the Gameing Community that is someday going to stop Hacker\Pirates and put "Them" out of business.

NeonSamurai · 02-17-10, 01:25 PM

Main sources are:

- retail (boxed if at all possible rather then download)
- leaked retail (includes retail sources (they get games a day or two before they go on the shelf often), printing/packaging sources, occasionally there is a leak in the game company (such as a disgruntled employee), etc.)

preview/review copies are not generally used as they are not the same as retail and are not "proper" in the scene.

Anyhow I will let this go on for a bit more, just play nice folks and abide by Subsim rules.

Nisgeis · 02-17-10, 01:31 PM

Oh, I just remembered there was that one case where someone wrote a general virus with the intention of getting it inside Valve. Once inside, it activated (it was completely dorment everywhere else, so was not detected) and started uploading everything inside their network it could to an external source. That was a half finished version of Half Life 2 (I think) though, so not an actual method that someone has used to get their hands on a game disc, more industrial espionage, but it does show the lengths some will go to.

FIREWALL · 02-17-10, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Main sources are:

- retail (boxed if at all possible rather then download)
- leaked retail (includes retail sources (they get games a day or two before they go on the shelf often), printing/packaging sources, occasionally there is a leak in the game company (such as a disgruntled employee), etc.)

preview/review copies are not generally used as they are not the same as retail and are not "proper" in the scene.

Anyhow I will let this go on for a bit more, just play nice folks and abide by Subsim rules.

Neon this thread has done just fine except for a couple of posts You should talk to.

Delete the posts that try to derail this thread instead.

02-17-10, 12:24 PM	#1
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02-17-10, 12:38 PM	#5
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Exactly, everytime a game is available as an illegal download before the game is released, then it's been leaked from the industry. With security like that, the games industry is killing itself and punishing the group of people who couldn't possible have been responsible (the buyers) is even more insane. Physician heal thyself! Even if they don't get a preview version (for FREE!!!) they can just borrow one from someone, or even buy it. To them though, the game is the challenge of cracking the game, not the game itself. They do it for the prestige. Anytime you say your copy protection is uncrackable, then... let's just say 'red rag, bull, bull, red rag. How do you do?' __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

02-17-10, 12:53 PM	#8
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02-17-10, 01:13 PM	#10
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02-17-10, 01:20 PM	#12
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I honestly think it;s going to be the Gameing Community that is someday going to stop Hacker\Pirates and put "Them" out of business. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-17-10, 01:25 PM	#13
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Main sources are: - retail (boxed if at all possible rather then download) - leaked retail (includes retail sources (they get games a day or two before they go on the shelf often), printing/packaging sources, occasionally there is a leak in the game company (such as a disgruntled employee), etc.) preview/review copies are not generally used as they are not the same as retail and are not "proper" in the scene. Anyhow I will let this go on for a bit more, just play nice folks and abide by Subsim rules. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

02-17-10, 01:31 PM	#14
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Oh, I just remembered there was that one case where someone wrote a general virus with the intention of getting it inside Valve. Once inside, it activated (it was completely dorment everywhere else, so was not detected) and started uploading everything inside their network it could to an external source. That was a half finished version of Half Life 2 (I think) though, so not an actual method that someone has used to get their hands on a game disc, more industrial espionage, but it does show the lengths some will go to. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.