Are We Cattle?

[Brag]

Businesses are created to satisfy needs, A businessman sees what people want, manufactures a product and sells it a fair price. In modern times, some companies have tried to influence trends to woo clients to their products and advertize the benefit these products.

You all know that.

It is a matter of mutual respect and trust.


If Ubi had respect for its customers, they would have consulted us or other gamers, explained the benefits, gaged the attitudes and decided to go ahead or not.

Instead:

They trotted out their PR guy who read out a Diktat as if we were a bunch of Zeks (Gulag inmates). The twit didn't even bother to come up with don't worry be happy platitudes.

Now, they expect us to line up like obedient cattle and buy their DRM/OSP bugged game.

Are we cattle?

Moo, moo, moo, moo, moo. Yeah, a herd of charging bulls

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Brag

Yeah, a herd of charging bulls

Dude i like that!





But... who is who in the picture? we will have to wait and see.

[Letum]

Haha!
You drama queen you!

[trenken]

Originally Posted by Brag

Businesses are created to satisfy needs, A businessman sees what people want, manufactures a product and sells it a fair price. In modern times, some companies have tried to influence trends to woo clients to their products and advertize the benefit these products.

You all know that.

It is a matter of mutual respect and trust.


If Ubi had respect for its customers, they would have consulted us or other gamers, explained the benefits, gaged the attitudes and decided to go ahead or not.

Instead:

They trotted out their PR guy who read out a Diktat as if we were a bunch of Zeks (Gulag inmates). The twit didn't even bother to come up with don't worry be happy platitudes.

Now, they expect us to line up like obedient cattle and buy their DRM/OSP bugged game.

Are we cattle?

Moo, moo, moo, moo, moo. Yeah, a herd of charging bulls

Please list the games that you've played that use DRM. Because I sure hope you have experience with it before you went complaining about it, like everyone else here that has never played a DRM game.

I've played 4, 2 are single player only, not 1 bad experience.

[Task Force]

yea, we are cattle... MOOOOOO!!!

[FIREWALL]

Well put Brag

Consumers need to take back control.

[onelifecrisis]

Another rah rah speech, Brag? How many is that for you today?

Maybe save it for just before release. You wouldn't want your herd of charging bulls to peak too early.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by trenken

Please list the games that you've played that use DRM. Because I sure hope you have experience with it before you went complaining about it, like everyone else here that has never played a DRM game.

I've played 4, 2 are single player only, not 1 bad experience.

Do you really want to know? Zero.
The beef is, no stinking body is going to tell me to log in so I can play alone. I like the SH series, that's why I want Ubi to remove their bugging.
So I'm not buying until they do, So, moooo .

[AVGWarhawk]

Moo...

[sergei]

Originally Posted by trenken

Please list the games that you've played that use DRM.

Only two.

Fallout 3 and Empire Total War.

Neither of which insisted on a permanent internet connection for me to play.

[SteamWake]

me moo too

[Highbury]

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by trenken

Please list the games that you've played that use DRM.

I'll bite. My list, compiled from http://forum.daemon-tools.cc/gamedb.php?letter=Z:
American McGeeґs Alice
Avatar - The Game
Battlecruiser Millenium Gold Edition
Crysis
DCS Black Shark
Deus Ex: Invisible War
Diablo
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Enigma: Rising Tide
F.E.A.R.
Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout 3
FlatOut Ultimate Carnage
Gears of War
Half-Life 2
Hidden & Dangerous 2
Icewind Dale
IL-2 Sturmovik
IL2-Sturmovik: The Forgotten Battles
Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault
Nascar Racing 2002 Season
Nascar Racing 4
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide
Pacific Fighters
Silent Hunter 3
Silent Hunter 4
The Sims
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Total Annihilation: Kingdoms
Unreal Tournament
Warcraft III
X2 The Threat
X3 Reunion
X-Plane 8
X-Plane 9

I've rarely had a problem. I scratched a disk for X-Plane 8, gave me a reason to buy X-Plane 9. Couldn't install the U-boat missions (patch 1.5) for SH4, but an email resolved the issue within a day... I was irritated, but I survived.

The rest? Not a problem. Most are either plain disk checks or one time authorizations on the 'net. I don't worry about disk checks: When I started computing, I had all my games stored on floppies (I'm 29, been using PCs for 25. We didn't have hard drives back then, not in a residential setting). Swapping a disk isn't going to bother me.

Same goes for one time authorizations. Odds are, I'll be connected when I install (not when I want to play, just when I install). Not a big deal.

Some of those games listed above have install limitations... realistically, I'm not going to hit the limit. When I have (SH4 Uboat Missions or Windows installations), a simple email or phone call resolves the issue. Life goes on, and I'm happy.

Chaining me to a server? Ain't going to happen. There's a line, and OSP crossed it.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Brag

Are we cattle?

When it comes to this crowd.......
yes.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by theluckyone17

Chaining me to a server? Ain't going to happen. There's a line, and OSP crossed it.

He doesn't get the difference between DRM and OSP. People are fine with registration keys. people are even fine with games connecting at startup for authentication, like Steam. But people are NOT fine with being constantly tethered.

He makes us out to be the technological Neanderthals, railing against the rising tide. If we're railing, we're not alone. Just look at any of the comments from any of the news sources that carried the news of Ubi doing this on all of their games...Digg, reddit, et.al. Almost every single comment is negative.