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Left (I'm American) 7 18.92%
Center Left (I'm American) 2 5.41%
Center (I'm American) 3 8.11%
Center Right (I'm American) 7 18.92%
Right (I'm American) 3 8.11%
Left (I'm NOT American) 4 10.81%
Center Left (I'm NOT American) 2 5.41%
Center (I'm NOT American) 8 21.62%
Center Right (I'm NOT American) 1 2.70%
Right (I'm NOT American) 0 0%
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Old 12-02-09, 08:26 PM   #1
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Default How do you describe your self politically?

With reference to:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=158727

I wish I could add 'other', but I am limited to 10 options.
If you don't like to categorise your self (who does!) then go with what you think others most often think of you or don't vote.

Right (I'm from the USA)
Center Right (I'm from the USA)
Center (I'm from the USA)
Center Left (I'm from the USA)
Left (I'm from the USA)

Right (I'm NOT from the USA)
Center Right (I'm NOT from the USA)
Center (I'm NOT from the USA)
Center Left (I'm NOT from the USA)
Left (I'm NOT from the USA)
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None of the above.
Ditto
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Few people are "one" category across all aspects of society/governance.

I think there are a lot of people who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative.

And this does not include that right and left are not binary states, but are a spectrum between them.
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I'm Right (from the Center) of the USA.

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Yes, yes, I know.

It isn't meant to be a full, accurate or useful description of anyone's
political opinions, just the roughest of generalisations for GT as a whole.
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YIt isn't meant to be a full, accurate or useful description of anyone's
political opinions
If you don't expect the result to be accurate or useful then what's the point of it?
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If you don't expect the result to be accurate or useful then what's the point of it?
It isn't meant to be a full, accurate or useful description of anyone's
political opinions, just the roughest of generalisations for GT as a whole.

The number of umbrellas sold isn't a full, accurate or useful description
of the weather, but it gives you something to base a generalisation on.
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It isn't meant to be a full, accurate or useful description of anyone's
political opinions, just the roughest of generalisations for GT as a whole.

The number of umbrellas sold isn't a full, accurate or useful description
of the weather, but it gives you something to base a generalisation on.
erm, ok.
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You left out one catagory.

JACKASS = Letum

C'mon, man
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Few people are "one" category across all aspects of society/governance..
No but you can sum yourself up overall, its not that hard to do.

"If you don't like to categorise your self (who does!) then go with what you think others most often think of you or don't vote."

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I think there are a lot of people who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative..
So.. Center Right then...

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And this does not include that right and left are not binary states, but are a spectrum between them.
Eh?? Yeah and its roughly catered for in the poll.

I voted center anyway, though Center left might have been better choice for me.. ah well.
From what I have read in the GT forums over the past week, My impression is that most are center Right...
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I know what your getting at. But ultimately I can be nothing but an "independant constitutionalist". As such - its not about "right or left", its about the merits of each issue, and what the constitution and common sense say about it.

For example - I have a personal opinion about homosexuality and gay marriage. While I have called people who are gay "friend", and meant it - I do not agree with the idea of gay marriage. However, what is more important is not my personal opinion - but rather the reality that no federal government has the legal authority to authorize or restrict gay marriage to its citizenry, without specific constitutional actions occuring. Specifically, because the Constitution does NOT empower the federal government to put its nose in the marriage business, it becomes a "States Rights" issue. As such, each State has (or at least is supposed to have) the authority to make its own laws about what it will or will not recognize among its own citizenry. Only if 33 of the 50 states by public referendum agree to ammend the federal constitution does the federal government really have the right to lay down a "blanket" policy. So regardless of what I or a federal politician things, its only up to the states. That stand doesn't put me on the "right" side of the issue, or on the "left". My personal opinion would be "to the right", but I could not in good conscience promote federal action based upon it. The stance also doesn't put me in "the center".

I like being outside the conventional political box - and judging by the ever increasing numbers of voters who are registering (or often changing their affiliations to) independant, alot of other folks like being outside the box too!

Bout time if ya ask me. Too many politicians looking in the box and trying to figure out what portion of its contents will vote for em just based on the letter beside their name.
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I know what your getting at. But ultimately I can be nothing but an "independant constitutionalist". As such - its not about "right or left", its about the merits of each issue, and what the constitution and common sense say about it.

For example - I have a personal opinion about homosexuality and gay marriage. While I have called people who are gay "friend", and meant it - I do not agree with the idea of gay marriage. However, what is more important is not my personal opinion - but rather the reality that no federal government has the legal authority to authorize or restrict gay marriage to its citizenry, without specific constitutional actions occuring. Specifically, because the Constitution does NOT empower the federal government to put its nose in the marriage business, it becomes a "States Rights" issue. As such, each State has (or at least is supposed to have) the authority to make its own laws about what it will or will not recognize among its own citizenry. Only if 33 of the 50 states by public referendum agree to ammend the federal constitution does the federal government really have the right to lay down a "blanket" policy. So regardless of what I or a federal politician things, its only up to the states. That stand doesn't put me on the "right" side of the issue, or on the "left". My personal opinion would be "to the right", but I could not in good conscience promote federal action based upon it. The stance also doesn't put me in "the center".

I like being outside the conventional political box - and judging by the ever increasing numbers of voters who are registering (or often changing their affiliations to) independant, alot of other folks like being outside the box too!

Bout time if ya ask me. Too many politicians looking in the box and trying to figure out what portion of its contents will vote for em just based on the letter beside their name.
For me personally:

Abortion:
Its the woman body, her life and her business (and nobody elses tbh)
plus I dont think anyone can remember what it was like when they were a 3 month old feotous.

Gay marriage:
Again - none of my business, if homosexuals marry or not, it has zero impact on me.
but I see no reason to deny them the same freedoms as hetrosexuals.

(Sorry Christianity & Islam)

Gun Laws,
i live in the UK so its not really applicable, but I would not want thme legalized over here as the people who tend to actually want guns - tend to be the same people who have no intention of using them for the great of good. And plus we already have enough problems with Knife crime.

I guess its down to what ever you believe. applogies if my views offended anyone.
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as the people who tend to actually want guns - tend to be the same people who have no intention of using them for the great of good.
I'm not offended but I'd sure be interested to hear your reasoning for this...

Edit: though it'd be better if it were in a more applicable thread!
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I put Center-Right. The main thing that keeps me from being far right is I believe some regulatory oversight in critical markets is needed.
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