Here it comes ! House eyes new taxes as senators pare health bill

[SteamWake]

The tax options include:
- Increasing the price of soda and other sugary drinks by 10 cents a can.
- Applying a potential 2 percent income tax increase to single taxpayers earning more than $200,000 a year and households earning more than $250,000.
- A new employer payroll tax could target 3 percent of employers' health care expenditures.
- Taxing employer-provided health insurance benefits above certain levels
- a less likely option but one that still is in the running.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090619/D98TNJC00.html

[nikimcbee]

They need to stop all of this now! Hopefully this will be the downfall of obama, as it was HRC when she tried to change our health system.

[SteamWake]

Only one comment.

I guess Im wrong. People dont mind addittional tax burdon

[Frame57]

What stroke of genius by the political hypocrisy....Let's see here, yes, let's tax the employers who are already providing a health care benefit in order to make it more difficult and less cost effective for them to do so. This will cause them to rely on the good ole reliable government by once again punishing the private sector. Voting the bums out will do no good because only bums will replace them. Reformation in government is well overdue.

[AVGWarhawk]

The plan is bad all the way around. The plan infringes on the free market called the insurance industry. Employers have no incentive to keep insurance on the employees. It is just stupid.

[SteamWake]

Another thing being looked into and not mentioned here because its not health care related is your tax deferrred IRA cotributions.

There looking into restructuring that so that the contributions are no longer tax deferred. So on top of ... at least in my case my IRA having shrunk by nearly 50% in the last year it will now also be taxed

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The plan is bad all the way around. The plan infringes on the free market called the insurance industry. Employers have no incentive to keep insurance on the employees. It is just stupid.

Good. It's an expensive and inefficient system.

And free market of the insurance industry? HAH! The insurance industry is one of the most governmentally regulated industries in the country. You already have government insurance whether you realize it or not.

Funny how the people who argue against a real health insurance plan are the ones who never have to worry about medical bills bankrupting them.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's an expensive and inefficient system.

The insurance industry is one of the most governmentally regulated industries in the country.

:rotfl::rotfl:

Irony is so sweet.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

:rotfl::rotfl:

Irony is so sweet.

It is, isnt it?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Good. It's an expensive and inefficient system.

And free market of the insurance industry? HAH! The insurance industry is one of the most governmentally regulated industries in the country. You already have government insurance whether you realize it or not.

.

There needs to be Tort Reform. The same as what Bush was attempting to accomplish. Obama brought up the same. Do you have any idea what the average malpractice insurance is? It is over $250,000 a year for one doctor.

Take a look at medicad and medicare that are run by the government....see it failing....you bet! Enough said on a government health care plan.

As far as regulated, sure, it is regulated but it is still independent business'. No offense mookie, I pay for good health insurance. I'm taxed on my health insurance plan. There are pleny of plans out there anyone can purchase.

Funny how the people who argue against a real health insurance plan are the ones who never have to worry about medical bills bankrupting them

That is just a cop out.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Take a look at medicad and medicare that are run by the government....see it failing....you bet! Enough said on a government health care plan.

Look at every other civilized nation in the world's universal healthcare plan where life expectancies and patient satisfaction are higher while spending less on healthcare than the U.S.

Enough said.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Look at every other civilized nation in the world's universal healthcare plan where life expectancies and patient satisfaction are higher while spending less on healthcare than the U.S.

Enough said.

I guess some folks are happy to wait 3 years for necessary surgery. :rotfl:

I guess some folks are happy to be denied care due to their current health.

Meh... go watch another Michale Moore movie.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Look at every other civilized nation in the world's universal healthcare plan where life expectancies and patient satisfaction are higher while spending less on healthcare than the U.S.

Enough said.

Explain to me why my parents who are in their mid-seventies, have their own medical plan plus medicare and still paid over $20,000.00 in medication and doctor visits....that was just last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Medicare is a failure. I see it first hand mookie. This government healthcare will be a failure.

So tell me, why are you so hot and bothered to get government health care? Why should others pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry to get sown up after another drunk'en brawl?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

I guess some folks are happy to wait 3 years for necessary surgery. :rotfl:

I guess some folks are happy to be denied care due to their current health.

Neither of which would ever happen under our glorious HMO system, right?

Meh... go watch another Michale Moore movie.

I will so long as you keep swallowing the insurance company propaganda hook line and sinker.

[AVGWarhawk]

Hillary attempted this when Bill was in office. It went down in a ball of flames. Currently Obama is getting serious opposition from his own crew on the Hill. He has been handed the golden key to the crapper from ABC and making an hour long info-merical...I won't be watching that. Obama's approval rating is starting to flounder and drop even more. This health care will not pass...UNLESS, Pelosi and co can get fat pork in the bill. Welcome to old school DC and no change at all.