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U-84 · 02-05-09, 03:23 PM

It's 1940 goin into 1941, I've always been using steam torps most if not all the time, but i did a half and half load last patrol, and with the slow settings on the electric, I couldn't hit the biggest ship in the world.

...Any electric torp users here that could help me out...and yes i do open torp doors before firing...is there a certain angle i need to shoot from, or certain distance...?

GoldenRivet · 02-05-09, 03:41 PM

your firing solution becomes more and more erroneous with distance the torpedo has to travel to meet the target.

my recommendation on electrics would be to fire at no greater than 1500m range.

the only time i use electric torpedoes is during daylight at point blank range.

when they become available i will load tubes 1 and 4 with electric torpedoes and tubes 2 and 3 with steam so that my spread of 1-4 and 2-3 will be firing the same type of fish.

just dont take long range shots and you'll do fine

FIREWALL · 02-05-09, 03:46 PM

GR pretty well covered it.

RoaldLarsen · 02-05-09, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by U-84

It's 1940 goin into 1941, I've always been using steam torps most if not all the time, but i did a half and half load last patrol, and with the slow settings on the electric, I couldn't hit the biggest ship in the world.

...Any electric torp users here that could help me out...and yes i do open torp doors before firing...is there a certain angle i need to shoot from, or certain distance...?

Firing at a gyroscope angle of 0 (torps go straight ahead) with the sub positioned at 90 degrees to the course of the target, about 500 metres from the projected impact point seems to work best for me.

You haven't described your targetting procedure. Some people just take shots without using the TDC. This can be done at short ranges with G7a torps but the electrics are too slow for this, unless you are really good. Use the TDC to determine what angle off your bow the target should be to determine the correct moment to fire for your optimum shot. There are a number of threads that describe manual targetting procedures. Check the links in the Newbie guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96026

Pisces · 02-05-09, 04:20 PM

There is a known bug in Sh3 that forgets to tell the TDC to update the lead angle for the current selected torpedo when you have previously selected a torpedo with different speed setting. So if you selected a Type1 at fast, then select a type2 (that can only go slow) the TDC still thinks the type 2 should be aimed as if it was fast. Therefore, allways select the propper speed setting before you fire (for any kind of torpedo) to be sure, if you ever select different torpedo speeds. Maybe that is what happend.

U-84 · 02-05-09, 06:14 PM

Thanks GR...that's probably my error, to far away...as for my targeting solution...it's auto configuration...I always try to do manuel, but have never mastered or been able to sink a ship using manuel. Usually I try to keep it realistic though, firing at no where past 70 or 110 degrees. or 20 degrees past 90. usually though Im at 90. are the steam torps the only torps that can be used for Medium and fast speeds?

A Very Super Market · 02-05-09, 07:00 PM

Yeah they're the only ones that can change speed. Remember that your early war TIIs will malfunction like nobody's business

Weiss Pinguin · 02-05-09, 09:50 PM

A good rule of thumb is to set all TIIs to run at 1 meter. Any lower and they might just bounce off the curved area of the hull.

02-05-09, 03:23 PM	#1
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	how to It's 1940 goin into 1941, I've always been using steam torps most if not all the time, but i did a half and half load last patrol, and with the slow settings on the electric, I couldn't hit the biggest ship in the world. ...Any electric torp users here that could help me out...and yes i do open torp doors before firing...is there a certain angle i need to shoot from, or certain distance...? __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

02-05-09, 03:41 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	your firing solution becomes more and more erroneous with distance the torpedo has to travel to meet the target. my recommendation on electrics would be to fire at no greater than 1500m range. the only time i use electric torpedoes is during daylight at point blank range. when they become available i will load tubes 1 and 4 with electric torpedoes and tubes 2 and 3 with steam so that my spread of 1-4 and 2-3 will be firing the same type of fish. just dont take long range shots and you'll do fine __________________

02-05-09, 03:46 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	GR pretty well covered it. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-05-09, 06:14 PM	#6
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thanks GR...that's probably my error, to far away...as for my targeting solution...it's auto configuration...I always try to do manuel, but have never mastered or been able to sink a ship using manuel. Usually I try to keep it realistic though, firing at no where past 70 or 110 degrees. or 20 degrees past 90. usually though Im at 90. are the steam torps the only torps that can be used for Medium and fast speeds? __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

02-05-09, 07:00 PM	#7
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah they're the only ones that can change speed. Remember that your early war TIIs will malfunction like nobody's business __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-05-09, 04:20 PM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	There is a known bug in Sh3 that forgets to tell the TDC to update the lead angle for the current selected torpedo when you have previously selected a torpedo with different speed setting. So if you selected a Type1 at fast, then select a type2 (that can only go slow) the TDC still thinks the type 2 should be aimed as if it was fast. Therefore, allways select the propper speed setting before you fire (for any kind of torpedo) to be sure, if you ever select different torpedo speeds. Maybe that is what happend.

02-05-09, 09:50 PM	#8
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	A good rule of thumb is to set all TIIs to run at 1 meter. Any lower and they might just bounce off the curved area of the hull. __________________