[REL] New Optics for NYGM 3.0 NOW 1.1!

[Hitman]

In case people missed the announcement, it's in the main NYGM thread here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=86

Stiebler kindly finished and tested a work I did this summer on my vacations, changing the appearence of the optics to follow historic ones, and adding Nicolas superb TDC controls to the peris and UZO stations.

Attack Scope:



Observation Scope:



UZO:



Enjoy

[h.sie]

awful. is there a version for GWx2.1, too? or a do-it-yourself manual?

[wdq4587]

Just forget post in that "Telemeter scale in the german optics".

I don't think the periscope have a field of view less than 50 degree. Some u-boat commander binoculars have a FOV like 72 degree. Although I have no data of periscope FOV. But I believe it at last should have a 60 degree FOV.

Why you can not seen a 60 degree FOV from the camera picture is not because the camera FOV not big enough. That's because the camera lens can not near the periscope lens enough. And the binoculars or periscope have limited eye relief. Just like there are a hole in wall, if you are not close enough, you can not see wide.

[Hitman]

awful

Thank you. Now I can be sure the mod is in the right pace.

is there a version for GWx2.1, too? or a do-it-yourself manual?

:rotfl:

I don't think the periscope have a field of view less than 50 degree. Some u-boat commander binoculars have a FOV like 72 degree. Although I have no data of periscope FOV. But I believe it at last should have a 60 degree FOV.

No. read the documentation, it took many research hours to find the correct info . The FOV in real german periscopes was 38º in 1,5x zoom.

[Alex]

It looks very nice, Hitman ! :hmm:

[onelifecrisis]

Looks brilliant!

[Sailor Steve]

Looks great! I especially like the effect with the UZO.

Originally Posted by Hitman

Thank you. Now I can be sure the mod is in the right pace.

I'm pretty sure he mean "awesome". But I'm also pretty sure you thought so, too.

[kranz]

sure he did. It's cool especially now, when I know how to use it.

PS: One more question: there are 4 subdivisions between 0-50 and 50-100(so:10, 20, 30,40 and 60, 70, 80, 90) and only 3 between 100-150. How come?

[h.sie]

oh sh*t, i of course meant awesome and not awful. sorry for my bad english.

[wdq4587]

Originally Posted by Hitman

No. read the documentation, it took many research hours to find the correct info . The FOV in real german periscopes was 38º in 1,5x zoom.

38º in 1.5x zoom, that's people normally called 57º FOV from human eyes. (Although calculated by triangle functions it should be 54.6º).

I strongly suggest you enlarge the periscope view as big as possible. In my calculate from a normal distance to view computer screen. It's about 1º per 31 pixels (+20%, -10%). Calculate your 57º FOV using how much pixels. Then you know a ship in your periscope small than a ship in real periscope how much. In my modifiction, I even add a 21X zoom level to emulate the same size in human eye retina. And even with that, you still can not get same distinguish ability as using real optic system for your computer do not display pixels in 0.1 mm size.

And I also strongly against using 2 circles style to show binoculars and UZO. It's looks not professional at all.

[Hitman]

I strongly suggest you enlarge the periscope view as big as possible. In my calculate from a normal distance to view computer screen. It's about 1º per 31 pixels (+20%, -10%). Calculate your 57º FOV using how much pixels. Then you know a ship in your periscope small than a ship in real periscope how much. In my modifiction, I even add a 21X zoom level to emulate the same size in human eye retina. And even with that, you still can not get same distinguish ability as using real optic system for your computer do not display pixels in 0.1 mm size.

FOV through an eyepiece is obviously reduced when compared with naked eye. You are mixing here FOV and amount of detail visible or perceivable, which are two different things. I have been testing my results with REAL binoculars this summer, watching REAL ships from the beach and the FOV is correct, although of course the computer screen resolution limits the detail you can perceive (F.e. in thin parts like masts and cables, or edges of the bridge). Then I also have readed many reports and manuals about the periscopes and their limitations, and you can be sure that using them required experience and ability. The amount of detail and size you suggest is in my opinion way better than the one available on real WW2 periscopes, not counting the dirt and humidity condensed in the lense, water reflections and other many variables that cause noticeable distortion to the image.

But again that's only my opinion and how I prefer the game to look like. I did the mod for my personal use but decided to share it in case someone else liked it and hadn't the skills to create his own one. I'm not going to introduce other modifications that those I like, so anyone not satisfied with the optics, just unistall them or modify them (I gave blanket permission for that in the readme in anything related to my own work).

And I also strongly against using 2 circles style to show binoculars and UZO. It's looks not professional at all.

I also have a version with only one circle in the middle, showing the correct vision when the eyes are pressed against the rubber. I will upload it as alternative for those who prefer it

Thanks