Battleships and larger vessels in SHIII??

Alexlab · 12-07-08, 04:22 AM

Hi all,

Just a quick question and would appreciate if someone could help me out here. I've been playing SHIII for about a year on a realism setting of around 43%. So far I have never encountered any large allied battleships, german battleships or aircraft carriers either. Is this due to the case that the realism settings need to be higher in order to encounter these vessels from time to time in the game? Or has anyone encountered these ships with lower realism settings and in that case I just happen to be plain unlucky?
Much appreciated.

piri_reis · 12-07-08, 05:19 AM

Welcome to subsim Alexlab!

The ships that sail the oceans in SH3 are derived from the Static & Random Layers of the campaign. The realism settings have no effect on traffic. You've just got to be lucky to come across a taskforce, or you can lurk around their favorite spots (gibraltar?) or raid a harbour (scapa flow)..
What supermod are you using, gwx, wac, nygm they all add extra traffic to the stock campaign files.

StarLion45 · 12-07-08, 05:37 AM

Hi there Alexlab

First of all I would like to welcome you to SUBSIM

Battleships !? I don't know where to begin:hmm:
Hmm , it depends what year you're in , but ok, lets start

If you're in the year 1939 , you will find HMS Nelson in "Loch Ewe" .
but I never been there yet

And you find him in the Northwestern corner
of Gibraltat Harbour . I explain it to you

sail down to Gibraltar strait , and in the beginning of the strait order your crew to slow down to "silent running" and dive to 14 meters through the whole strait . And when you come to beginning of Gibraltar Harbour turn babord (left) keep your sub close to shore , this is very important

You will find " HMS Nelson " about 2-5 km to the end of that corner . But beware ! It is very shallow water .
If you sink him , turn your sub , and go the same way out again on " silent running "..

And other Battleships like "Warspite" and "Hood" , you will/can find those , and similar Battleships in the fjord "Vaag" in Narvik around april 12 - to april 28th in the Grid "AF38" , and in in the "Harstad fjord" you can run into "Warspite" . And in the year 1941 , in May 26-27 , you may , if you're lucky , you can find a taskforce that is hunting "Bismarck" in grid "BE38" with the Battleships HMS Rodney/Nelson , and "King George V" , and those carriers Illistrius" etc .
I hope this was a little help to your questions . But I'm shure other embers in here in SUBsim can help you too:p

Good Luck ! And SINK THEM ALL

TarJak · 12-07-08, 05:52 AM

Welcome to subsim Alexlab!

meduza · 12-07-08, 06:16 AM

Occasionaly you'll receive a report of a Task force from BdU. Intercept it, and there's a good chance you'll find a battleship or a carrier. It won't be easy because they move fast, and are heavily escorted.

Sometimes you'll find a battleship or a cruiser inside a convoy, going slow. Sitting ducks.

I didn't have much luck with large warships. During the years of playing, I sank no more that half a dozen battleships and not a single carrier, although I attacked and damaged a few.

Welcome aboard and good hunting!

Alexlab · 12-07-08, 07:30 AM

Thanks for the help guys. I've got one more question though,

What supermod are you using, gwx, wac, nygm they all add extra traffic to the stock campaign files.

What are gwx, wac or nygm???? Never seen or heard of those before?

Also, when I get a radio message received, there is actually no message anywhere to be found.

Cheers for any help.

meduza · 12-07-08, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexlab

What are gwx, wac or nygm???? Never seen or heard of those before?

These are the supermods for SH3. Here are the links for their threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexlab

Also, when I get a radio message received, there is actually no message anywhere to be found.

Press "M" and you'll see the all the messages you received and sent.

Brag · 12-07-08, 10:43 AM

Welcome aboard, Alexlab!

I recommend GWX 2.1
However, GWX 3.0 is about to be released. You may want to wait until this happens.

richardphat · 12-07-08, 11:39 AM

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YUP YUP :p GWX! You must play GWX! There is a bunch of BB available for KM, RY, UN and IN

xxx · 12-07-08, 01:10 PM

I've only ever come across a battle ship once but on my last career I was given orders to break into Scapa Flow and sink an Illustrious fleet carrier. It was there along with 2 Auxillary cruisers

. However thats the only significant capital ships I've seen in SHIII.

Sailor Steve · 12-08-08, 05:29 PM

WELCOME ABOARD, Alexlab!

As Meduza posted the best link, there's not much more to explain. The supermods are all great, and all have harbor traffic coming and going, including pretty much historical ship movements.

Germany only had one aircraft carrier, Graf Zeppelin, and she was never completed. You can see her in Kiel harbor in 1939 with GWX. Also the battleships and cruisers are there during the correct historical time frames.

ppk · 12-09-08, 12:56 AM

Welcome!

Early in the war the game sometimes spawns Revenge class BB's in the middle of convoys with two or three Flowers as escorts... That's probably the easiest way to kill a capital ship but you have to be lucky to find one. Personally I like to hunt in grids AM and AL near the Rockall Bank, it's around there that most of the Liverpool bound convoys converge. Once in a while you'll see other stuff too, for example I just bagged a pair of unescorted Fiji light cruisers in AM29. Not exactly a battleship but still bigger than the usual stuff. The guys above pretty much summed it all up. Good luck!

On the topic of task forces I have a question too : almost every patrol I get contact reports of task forces transiting within British waters from Liverpool to Scapa. I never tried to get close but there seems to be a spot where the water looks deep-ish on the map and I've been thinking about sneaking in there to take a few swipes at them... Is it worth it? It's Feb 1943 in my campaign now so I might as well save that for the next one but still, I wonder...

Blue-Casket · 12-09-08, 02:35 PM

Yeah i don't find battleships a lot , only have been able to sink one !
A revenge clas which was surrounded by 8 escorts :p
I can assure u the moment 2 of my 4 torpedo's hit that vessel they all went down to hunt me

Then after heavy damage i lost trail of escorts and battleship but i knew it was heavily damaged en went on with searching, after a day i found him back completely unescorted because he couldn't keep a steady course anymore.

3 more torpedo's finished the job

Another time more in the beginning of the war i saw the hood and 2 other battleships behind it setting sail to the West that was a nice image too

But i've never seen a carrier EVER

GreyFox · 12-09-08, 08:50 PM

My very first patrol it was bad weather. I was on patrol a hundred miles off Syrth of Forth in my little Type IIA when my lookout warned me about a taskforce. I dive and take a look around, 3 battleships about 5 klicks away. I tried to close, but they were travelling at over 20 knots while I could only make 13. I fired a couple of torps, but they all missed.

Haven't seen a battleship since

Jimbuna · 12-10-08, 10:37 AM

Welcome aboard Alexlab

12-07-08, 04:22 AM	#1
Alexlab Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Battleships and larger vessels in SHIII?? Hi all, Just a quick question and would appreciate if someone could help me out here. I've been playing SHIII for about a year on a realism setting of around 43%. So far I have never encountered any large allied battleships, german battleships or aircraft carriers either. Is this due to the case that the realism settings need to be higher in order to encounter these vessels from time to time in the game? Or has anyone encountered these ships with lower realism settings and in that case I just happen to be plain unlucky? Much appreciated.

12-07-08, 05:19 AM	#2
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Welcome to subsim Alexlab! The ships that sail the oceans in SH3 are derived from the Static & Random Layers of the campaign. The realism settings have no effect on traffic. You've just got to be lucky to come across a taskforce, or you can lurk around their favorite spots (gibraltar?) or raid a harbour (scapa flow).. What supermod are you using, gwx, wac, nygm they all add extra traffic to the stock campaign files. __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

12-07-08, 05:37 AM	#3
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Oh yes , Battleships Hi there Alexlab First of all I would like to welcome you to SUBSIM Battleships !? I don't know where to begin:hmm: Hmm , it depends what year you're in , but ok, lets start If you're in the year 1939 , you will find HMS Nelson in "Loch Ewe" . but I never been there yet And you find him in the Northwestern corner of Gibraltat Harbour . I explain it to you sail down to Gibraltar strait , and in the beginning of the strait order your crew to slow down to "silent running" and dive to 14 meters through the whole strait . And when you come to beginning of Gibraltar Harbour turn babord (left) keep your sub close to shore , this is very important You will find " HMS Nelson " about 2-5 km to the end of that corner . But beware ! It is very shallow water . If you sink him , turn your sub , and go the same way out again on " silent running ".. And other Battleships like "Warspite" and "Hood" , you will/can find those , and similar Battleships in the fjord "Vaag" in Narvik around april 12 - to april 28th in the Grid "AF38" , and in in the "Harstad fjord" you can run into "Warspite" . And in the year 1941 , in May 26-27 , you may , if you're lucky , you can find a taskforce that is hunting "Bismarck" in grid "BE38" with the Battleships HMS Rodney/Nelson , and "King George V" , and those carriers Illistrius" etc . I hope this was a little help to your questions . But I'm shure other embers in here in SUBsim can help you too:p Good Luck ! And SINK THEM ALL

12-07-08, 06:16 AM	#5
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Occasionaly you'll receive a report of a Task force from BdU. Intercept it, and there's a good chance you'll find a battleship or a carrier. It won't be easy because they move fast, and are heavily escorted. Sometimes you'll find a battleship or a cruiser inside a convoy, going slow. Sitting ducks. I didn't have much luck with large warships. During the years of playing, I sank no more that half a dozen battleships and not a single carrier, although I attacked and damaged a few. Welcome aboard and good hunting! __________________

12-07-08, 10:43 AM	#8
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard, Alexlab! I recommend GWX 2.1 However, GWX 3.0 is about to be released. You may want to wait until this happens. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

12-07-08, 05:52 AM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Welcome to subsim Alexlab!

12-07-08, 07:30 AM	#6
Alexlab Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the help guys. I've got one more question though, What supermod are you using, gwx, wac, nygm they all add extra traffic to the stock campaign files. What are gwx, wac or nygm???? Never seen or heard of those before? Also, when I get a radio message received, there is actually no message anywhere to be found. Cheers for any help.

12-07-08, 11:39 AM	#9
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	^ l l YUP YUP :p GWX! You must play GWX! There is a bunch of BB available for KM, RY, UN and IN

12-07-08, 01:10 PM	#10
xxx Watch Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've only ever come across a battle ship once but on my last career I was given orders to break into Scapa Flow and sink an Illustrious fleet carrier. It was there along with 2 Auxillary cruisers . However thats the only significant capital ships I've seen in SHIII.

12-08-08, 05:29 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	WELCOME ABOARD, Alexlab! As Meduza posted the best link, there's not much more to explain. The supermods are all great, and all have harbor traffic coming and going, including pretty much historical ship movements. Germany only had one aircraft carrier, Graf Zeppelin, and she was never completed. You can see her in Kiel harbor in 1939 with GWX. Also the battleships and cruisers are there during the correct historical time frames. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-09-08, 12:56 AM	#12
ppk Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 125 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Welcome! Early in the war the game sometimes spawns Revenge class BB's in the middle of convoys with two or three Flowers as escorts... That's probably the easiest way to kill a capital ship but you have to be lucky to find one. Personally I like to hunt in grids AM and AL near the Rockall Bank, it's around there that most of the Liverpool bound convoys converge. Once in a while you'll see other stuff too, for example I just bagged a pair of unescorted Fiji light cruisers in AM29. Not exactly a battleship but still bigger than the usual stuff. The guys above pretty much summed it all up. Good luck! On the topic of task forces I have a question too : almost every patrol I get contact reports of task forces transiting within British waters from Liverpool to Scapa. I never tried to get close but there seems to be a spot where the water looks deep-ish on the map and I've been thinking about sneaking in there to take a few swipes at them... Is it worth it? It's Feb 1943 in my campaign now so I might as well save that for the next one but still, I wonder... __________________ When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche U-46 (VIIB) - 62 ships for 395,532 tons in Apr40 [DiD]

12-09-08, 02:35 PM	#13
Blue-Casket Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 116 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yeah i don't find battleships a lot , only have been able to sink one ! A revenge clas which was surrounded by 8 escorts :p I can assure u the moment 2 of my 4 torpedo's hit that vessel they all went down to hunt me Then after heavy damage i lost trail of escorts and battleship but i knew it was heavily damaged en went on with searching, after a day i found him back completely unescorted because he couldn't keep a steady course anymore. 3 more torpedo's finished the job Another time more in the beginning of the war i saw the hood and 2 other battleships behind it setting sail to the West that was a nice image too But i've never seen a carrier EVER

12-09-08, 08:50 PM	#14
GreyFox Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My very first patrol it was bad weather. I was on patrol a hundred miles off Syrth of Forth in my little Type IIA when my lookout warned me about a taskforce. I dive and take a look around, 3 battleships about 5 klicks away. I tried to close, but they were travelling at over 20 knots while I could only make 13. I fired a couple of torps, but they all missed. Haven't seen a battleship since __________________ If you ever find that violence doesn't work, you haven't used enough. Last edited by GreyFox; 12-09-08 at 08:51 PM.

12-10-08, 10:37 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard Alexlab __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!