Fire in the hole! Now the Pakis are taking shots at US helos

Onkel Neal · 09-25-08, 05:07 PM

Pakistani and American Troops Exchange Fire

Time to get closer to India.

Dowly · 09-25-08, 05:11 PM

Wasnt the U.S. the one to go over to Pakistan with Special Forces and later with choppers?

I mean, you wouldnt want russia to have their Spetznaz hunting terrorists on your backyard without permission right?

Platapus · 09-25-08, 05:22 PM

Lemme get this straight

Pakistani security forces were manning a security check point within Pakistan

"Pakistani military checkpoint near Tanai district in Khost Province."

Nato/US claims that its helicopters were 1 mile inside Afghanistan air space

"American and NATO officials said that the two helicopters were flying about one mile inside Afghan air space

This means that the Pakistani's were shooting at a helicopter that was more than a mile away (depending on the altitude) assuming that the Pakistani checkpoint was exactly on the border? Almost 1800 meters? That is some shooting with small arms.

Me thinks there is more to this story.......

Dowly · 09-25-08, 05:26 PM

If this is the same incident, the Finnish told this about a week ago. Also, the US Special forcers intrusion was told over 2 or so weeks ago. Hard to say what is true, but if US has gone to Pakistani territory, even if to hunt Al-qaida, I think US deserves to get slapped to it's hands.

Be it war on terrorism all they want, but if you want to be the good guys, follow the rules and respect other countries. If you dont, you just make yourselves look as bad as the terrorists.

Just my 2 cents, dont shoot me.

Letum · 09-25-08, 05:29 PM

Whats with the ethnic slurs?

Not what I usually expect from you Neal.

*edit* Perhaps it doesn't have all the connotations in the US that it does here, but all the same...

Sea Demon · 09-25-08, 05:49 PM

Yikes.

So now there's bad blood with Pakistan?

bookworm_020 · 09-25-08, 06:50 PM

I saw the story about the earlier border incident with the troops over the border, and one yesterday about Pakistan shooting down a US drone. If America wants to go after people across the border, it better be upfront and not just say it was an accident, otherwise it's going to be hauled over the hot coals for it!

Skybird · 09-25-08, 07:01 PM

Not the first time, Neal:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=142117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Whats with the ethnic slurs?

Not what I usually expect from you Neal.

*edit* Perhaps it doesn't have all the connotations in the US that it does here, but all the same...

What ethnic slurs? He said "Pakistani and American troops exchange fire. Time to get closer to India." Is moving away from a hostile enemy already discrimination today...?

Time to make a decision. Shift forces there with determination and pull out the gloves regarding the pakistani, or give up the region and pull out. The road to victory in Afghanistan leads over Pakistan. they never were allies or friends - that is a self-deception only. they worked against Afghnaistan from the very beginning.

Letum · 09-25-08, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

What ethnic slurs?

See the topic title.

"Paki" is a strong racial slur from the 50s/60s in the UK.. The equivalent of "Jap" or
"******", but for anyone of South Asian ethnicity.

Skybird · 09-25-08, 07:34 PM

Oh, language-specific. In German you could use it without anybody thinking about it. It's a simple short form. i assume neal meant it that way, if your story really is half a century ago meanwhile.

I had a friend at university, a girl from Korea. I called her "rice-ball".

RickC Sniper · 09-25-08, 08:31 PM

I have a neice that was born in S Korea. I call her rice-ball too, and we are very close.

Paki to me does not seem a derogatory term.

Reece · 09-25-08, 08:49 PM

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Paki to me does not seem a derogatory term.

And I doubt that Neal had any bad intentions.

Sailor Steve · 09-25-08, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Quote:

Paki to me does not seem a derogatory term.

And I doubt that Neal had any bad intentions.

You never know. Those Texis can be pretty sneaky sometimes.:rotfl:

Onkel Neal · 09-25-08, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Whats with the ethnic slurs?

Not what I usually expect from you Neal.

*edit* Perhaps it doesn't have all the connotations in the US that it does here, but all the same...

Huh? what did I say?

Onkel Neal · 09-25-08, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

What ethnic slurs?

See the topic title.

"Paki" is a strong racial slur from the 50s/60s in the UK.. The equivalent of "Jap" or
"******", but for anyone of South Asian ethnicity.

Oh, I see, in the title. Is Paki on the same level as n****?? Really? Color me surprised.

Honestly, I have no idea if Paki is a slur. I just used it because the length of my thread title was already too long and Pakistanis would not fit.

09-25-08, 05:07 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Fire in the hole! Now the Pakis are taking shots at US helos Pakistani and American Troops Exchange Fire Time to get closer to India. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Lemme get this straight Pakistani security forces were manning a security check point within Pakistan "Pakistani military checkpoint near Tanai district in Khost Province." Nato/US claims that its helicopters were 1 mile inside Afghanistan air space "American and NATO officials said that the two helicopters were flying about one mile inside Afghan air space This means that the Pakistani's were shooting at a helicopter that was more than a mile away (depending on the altitude) assuming that the Pakistani checkpoint was exactly on the border? Almost 1800 meters? That is some shooting with small arms. Me thinks there is more to this story....... __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Whats with the ethnic slurs? Not what I usually expect from you Neal. edit Perhaps it doesn't have all the connotations in the US that it does here, but all the same... __________________

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I saw the story about the earlier border incident with the troops over the border, and one yesterday about Pakistan shooting down a US drone. If America wants to go after people across the border, it better be upfront and not just say it was an accident, otherwise it's going to be hauled over the hot coals for it! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,603 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Oh, language-specific. In German you could use it without anybody thinking about it. It's a simple short form. i assume neal meant it that way, if your story really is half a century ago meanwhile. I had a friend at university, a girl from Korea. I called her "rice-ball". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Wasnt the U.S. the one to go over to Pakistan with Special Forces and later with choppers? I mean, you wouldnt want russia to have their Spetznaz hunting terrorists on your backyard without permission right?

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	If this is the same incident, the Finnish told this about a week ago. Also, the US Special forcers intrusion was told over 2 or so weeks ago. Hard to say what is true, but if US has gone to Pakistani territory, even if to hunt Al-qaida, I think US deserves to get slapped to it's hands. Be it war on terrorism all they want, but if you want to be the good guys, follow the rules and respect other countries. If you dont, you just make yourselves look as bad as the terrorists. Just my 2 cents, dont shoot me.

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Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Yikes. So now there's bad blood with Pakistan?

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RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	I have a neice that was born in S Korea. I call her rice-ball too, and we are very close. Paki to me does not seem a derogatory term. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html