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Old 08-13-08, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Bush Orders Military to Deliver Aid to Georgia

Crap. This now has the capability to spiral out of control.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402982,00.html

Everyone laughed at me before, but this whole world nuking itself back to the stone age is an even greater risk than it was in the Cold War. Of course, we have a new cold war going on anyway, but at least the old one was more controlled.

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Old 08-13-08, 02:08 PM   #2
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We know, and there's a thread about the situation of/in Georgia just one thread below this (After I post this, prolly 2 threads down).
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Old 08-13-08, 04:31 PM   #3
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while the idea of humanitarian aid is laudable, I have to agree with Subman that this has the potential of going bad real fast.

This is the time for careful and complete thinking.. but when did we ever get that from a politician?
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Old 08-13-08, 04:37 PM   #4
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Well, guys, they can't send civilians... then there would be accusations of covert ops...
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Old 08-13-08, 04:58 PM   #5
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It's okey to start a new thread about the same thing, when the other thread is many pages and very immense to read.

now back to the thread

is it 100% pure aid in those deliveries?

it's a good way to get wapeon to the Georgian military a.s.o

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Old 08-13-08, 06:57 PM   #6
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What a waste

We can't afford this crap, as noble as it may be.
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Old 08-13-08, 08:47 PM   #7
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Yeah. The Georgian military needs more weapons and ammo so it can start shelling civilian centers again!

NATO's reaction to this whole crisis has been nothing short of comical. Georgia starts shelling cities causing thousands of casualties. Russia tells them to get bent, they run under NATO's skirt and scream the big bad Russians are being mean to them. Nobody in NATO ever bothered to ask why of course.
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Cripes, from the frying pan into the fat! The Russians may see this as a coverup to the supply of weapons, or an excuse for the US to move troops in, sheesh, deliver aid yes, but by Nato or some close neighbour!
This is getting a little scary IMO!
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Extra Extra Conflicting Superpowers pull down the UN. IMF now to take
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......careful and complete thinking.. but when did we ever get that from a politician?
You could have left out the careful and complete part, we're lucky if they're even equipped for thinking
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Old 08-13-08, 10:17 PM   #11
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Yeah. The Georgian military needs more weapons and ammo so it can start shelling civilian centers again!

NATO's reaction to this whole crisis has been nothing short of comical. Georgia starts shelling cities causing thousands of casualties. Russia tells them to get bent, they run under NATO's skirt and scream the big bad Russians are being mean to them. Nobody in NATO ever bothered to ask why of course.
Were are these thousands of dead? Why havent the Russians let international observers to see them?
The ones being killed are the Georgians trapped inside Ossetia.

Georgia really needs military assistance to build up force that can defend the whole country. Geography is on their side so a 500.000 strong well trained force would prevent this from hapening ever again. They must realise that they cant rely on outside help, you cant never trust at the end anyone but yourself. They should consult the Israelis for whom they have close ties, they helped to create the Singapore defence forces also. IMO Finland also should help, as it did with Estonia. Small countries with big neighbours can only go with concription and total defence with everything in society prepared for it.
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Old 08-13-08, 11:01 PM   #12
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HT, it you or ST that posted the observation from the russian reporter that stated that there were like less then a hundred or so russian and ossetian's killed? Most of those were combantants.... kind of takes the charges of genocide or cleaning up the neighborhood and debases them.

The old regime at least had control of it's media (read pravda) and could keep their story straight. These new guys have never had to deal with a "free press" before, video from cell phones, or camcorders. This is what is biting them in the azz right now. Blatent lies, and there is reasonable proof to refute their nonsense. 30 years ago a whole nother ball game..... Some on this site who have become the marc antony's of the russian regime, will soon learn that a point can be made, without useless bloodshed.
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HT, it you or ST that posted the observation from the russian reporter that stated that there were like less then a hundred or so russian and ossetian's killed? Most of those were combantants.... kind of takes the charges of genocide or cleaning up the neighborhood and debases them.

The old regime at least had control of it's media (read pravda) and could keep their story straight. These new guys have never had to deal with a "free press" before, video from cell phones, or camcorders. This is what is biting them in the azz right now. Blatent lies, and there is reasonable proof to refute their nonsense. 30 years ago a whole nother ball game..... Some on this site who have become the marc antony's of the russian regime, will soon learn that a point can be made, without useless bloodshed.
The Russians evacueted the Ossetians before the war, kind of proves their intentions. OSCE observers have stated its the Georgians that are now ethnically cleansed from Ossetia. The Russian propaganda machine has made a lot of claims that are still floating around.
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Old 08-14-08, 02:48 AM   #14
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Can't the US military just spread ebola over that area?
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Bush. Ugh....

It's also worth noting that McCain has just announced that he's sending his own "delegation" to Georgia, while in the same breath insisting that it's "not a time for politics and partisanship".
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