Back to SH III?

Phobus · 05-30-08, 01:38 PM

Hi,

Just got to the Shelands Orkneys gap on my third patrol. I'm looking at a convoy of 39 ships. Yes thirty nine ships. Three are British the rest are Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Latvian and Finnish. They are escorted by 3 British DDs. It is Feb 1940.

So far in each of my patrols I've seen convoys of 'Neutral' ships escorted by British warships. It was an Irish one in my last patrol! I cannot for the life of me see how this can be called realistic. Add to that the range and accuracy of sonar, which every escort I've met so far, has been equiped with makes me question the realism of the game. DCs wich are more accurate than those in SH II. I don't remember it being like this in the basic SH III.

I'm seriously tempted to roll back to the original game.

R1fl3M4n · 05-30-08, 02:32 PM

well what mods are you using?

from what i understand ` u mean that with mods your game isnt realistic?

gord96 · 05-30-08, 03:04 PM

go ahead. your loss.

Jimbuna · 05-30-08, 03:15 PM

If your perception of realism is the original game then fair enough

Kodaita · 05-30-08, 03:19 PM

If vanilla SH3 was realistic, then Germany would have won the battle of the Atlantic by mid/late 1940. :rotfl:

Phobus · 05-30-08, 03:20 PM

Hi,

I have got GWX 2.1 with the 16k atmosphere mod. Nothing else.

What I was suggesting is that in terms of realism I never came accross Neutral convoys in SH III. OK so the DDs were just the same, deadly accurate from about 5000yds out just like SH II. See my other post 'How did he do that'

As I am only on my 3rd patrol there is probably a lot of things about GWX that I haven't come accross yet But so far it all seems just like eye candy. (That heresy will get me a court martial and keelhauling).

Incidently I was amused when leaving Willhemshaven to see that Tirpitz had lost all her turrets, Probably having a refit, or were they going to be offered as a mod to the VIIb?

FIREWALL · 05-30-08, 03:27 PM

To All the Above Poster's.

His post is so vague we don't even know if he's playing SH-3 with the latest Patch 1.4.

This hit & run posting with no info is a pain in the A$$.:rotfl:

This is a waste of time without more info.

Please give us more info Phobus.

Phobus · 05-30-08, 03:38 PM

Hi Jimbuna and Kodaita,

I should have to agree with both of you that SH III is not totally realistic and as I say I am only just into my third patrol but to find such a prevalence of 'Neutral convoys' is something that, as far as I am aware, never happened. I am not going to say that there may not have been an occasion when a neutral ship may have sailed in convoy but the convoys were essentially allied. Certainly the Irish never sailed in convoys made up of Irish ships, and in the sighting in my second patrol they did not have any escorts, and in the present incident 3 British out of 39 ships is somewhat unusual, and moreover to have a British escort!

Anyway I've had my moan, and unlike here at home, I won't get beaten over the head, and as always there will always be help and advice here. And GWX does look good dosn't it? Now for a beer, put on my old steel helmet and wait for the shooting to start.

Phobus · 05-30-08, 03:42 PM

Fierwall, my sincere applologies to you and the other posters.

I thought that everyone was now using GWX. However!

I have SH III installed and patched to 1.4 and GWX 2.1 installed with just the 16k atmosphere mod added.

FIREWALL · 05-30-08, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobus

Fierwall, my sincere applologies to you and the other posters.

I thought that everyone was now using GWX. However!

I have SH III installed and patched to 1.4 and GWX 2.1 installed with just the 16k atmosphere mod added.

Sorry Phobus.

You'de be surprised how many posts are like pulling teeth.

We're all anxious to help.

If we know the version their playing we have better answers.

In a nutshell, more info better answers.

I'm sure we can figure a way to make this game tougher for you.:p :rotfl:

Jimbuna · 05-30-08, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobus

Hi,

I have got GWX 2.1 with the 16k atmosphere mod. Nothing else.

What I was suggesting is that in terms of realism I never came accross Neutral convoys in SH III. OK so the DDs were just the same, deadly accurate from about 5000yds out just like SH II. See my other post 'How did he do that'

As I am only on my 3rd patrol there is probably a lot of things about GWX that I haven't come accross yet But so far it all seems just like eye candy. (That heresy will get me a court martial and keelhauling).

Incidently I was amused when leaving Willhemshaven to see that Tirpitz had lost all her turrets, Probably having a refit, or were they going to be offered as a mod to the VIIb?

Okay matey....I'm gonna take you for a genuine poster and not a baiter...I'm certainly not going to bite anyway

You state your only on your third patrol.

My advice would be to play the mod a little more and get to see what it's really about.

The Tirpitz hasn't lost it's turrets....they aint been fitted yet. Take a look at any website regarding the Tirpitz and see when they were actually fitted.

Now that's historical accuracy for ya

Bismarck · 05-31-08, 07:36 AM

I thought it was a bug

Brag · 05-31-08, 07:49 AM

Now that's historical accuracy for ya

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Very hoochie-woochie

the.terrabyte.pirate · 05-31-08, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobus

Incidently I was amused when leaving Willhemshaven to see that Tirpitz had lost all her turrets, Probably having a refit, or were they going to be offered as a mod to the VIIb?

Well, I knew a guy who knew a guy... I mentioned that my deck gun needed a bit more bang for my buck, and now I have one of the turrets on the deck of my IIB.

It's not what you know, but who you know...

Phobus · 05-31-08, 09:10 AM

Thanks guys, I'm glad we are still on good terms!

No doubt in time I'll get used to the frustration on see all those lovely tankers going bye with their neutral flags while I get the 'Be-Jabbers' knocked out of me by the escorts. Just wait 'till after April 10th. and Wesserubung!! I''l be there waiting. Up the Furher!!

I was impressed by the detail about the Tirpitz's turrets. I presume she is fitting out. I saw Hipper too.

Ah well, back to work. "Scrape the fungus off the wurste and make me a sarnie with that green brot, Hermann".

05-30-08, 01:38 PM	#1
Phobus Gunner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Poole. Dorset UK Posts: 93 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Back to SH III? Hi, Just got to the Shelands Orkneys gap on my third patrol. I'm looking at a convoy of 39 ships. Yes thirty nine ships. Three are British the rest are Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Latvian and Finnish. They are escorted by 3 British DDs. It is Feb 1940. So far in each of my patrols I've seen convoys of 'Neutral' ships escorted by British warships. It was an Irish one in my last patrol! I cannot for the life of me see how this can be called realistic. Add to that the range and accuracy of sonar, which every escort I've met so far, has been equiped with makes me question the realism of the game. DCs wich are more accurate than those in SH II. I don't remember it being like this in the basic SH III. I'm seriously tempted to roll back to the original game.

05-30-08, 02:32 PM	#2
R1fl3M4n Gunner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Romania , Bucharest Posts: 91 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	well what mods are you using? from what i understand ` u mean that with mods your game isnt realistic? __________________ ----------------------- The Merchant season is open!

05-30-08, 03:15 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	If your perception of realism is the original game then fair enough __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-30-08, 03:19 PM	#5
Kodaita A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If vanilla SH3 was realistic, then Germany would have won the battle of the Atlantic by mid/late 1940. :rotfl: __________________ "Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?" "Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."

05-30-08, 03:27 PM	#7
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	To All the Above Poster's. His post is so vague we don't even know if he's playing SH-3 with the latest Patch 1.4. This hit & run posting with no info is a pain in the A$$.:rotfl: This is a waste of time without more info. Please give us more info Phobus. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-30-08, 03:04 PM	#3
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	go ahead. your loss.

05-30-08, 03:20 PM	#6
Phobus Gunner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Poole. Dorset UK Posts: 93 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hi, I have got GWX 2.1 with the 16k atmosphere mod. Nothing else. What I was suggesting is that in terms of realism I never came accross Neutral convoys in SH III. OK so the DDs were just the same, deadly accurate from about 5000yds out just like SH II. See my other post 'How did he do that' As I am only on my 3rd patrol there is probably a lot of things about GWX that I haven't come accross yet But so far it all seems just like eye candy. (That heresy will get me a court martial and keelhauling). Incidently I was amused when leaving Willhemshaven to see that Tirpitz had lost all her turrets, Probably having a refit, or were they going to be offered as a mod to the VIIb?

05-30-08, 03:38 PM	#8
Phobus Gunner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Poole. Dorset UK Posts: 93 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hi Jimbuna and Kodaita, I should have to agree with both of you that SH III is not totally realistic and as I say I am only just into my third patrol but to find such a prevalence of 'Neutral convoys' is something that, as far as I am aware, never happened. I am not going to say that there may not have been an occasion when a neutral ship may have sailed in convoy but the convoys were essentially allied. Certainly the Irish never sailed in convoys made up of Irish ships, and in the sighting in my second patrol they did not have any escorts, and in the present incident 3 British out of 39 ships is somewhat unusual, and moreover to have a British escort! Anyway I've had my moan, and unlike here at home, I won't get beaten over the head, and as always there will always be help and advice here. And GWX does look good dosn't it? Now for a beer, put on my old steel helmet and wait for the shooting to start.

05-30-08, 03:42 PM	#9
Phobus Gunner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Poole. Dorset UK Posts: 93 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Fierwall, my sincere applologies to you and the other posters. I thought that everyone was now using GWX. However! I have SH III installed and patched to 1.4 and GWX 2.1 installed with just the 16k atmosphere mod added.

05-31-08, 07:36 AM	#12
Bismarck Medic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At the bottom of the sea in my VIIC Posts: 164 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought it was a bug __________________ U-2 sunk 1942 and then... U-96 sunk 1941 U-333 sunk 1945 by a B-17. U-43 STAY TUNED hosted.filefront.com/jpanzerj

05-31-08, 07:49 AM	#13
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Now that's historical accuracy for ya [/quote] Very hoochie-woochie __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-31-08, 09:10 AM	#15
Phobus Gunner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Poole. Dorset UK Posts: 93 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys, I'm glad we are still on good terms! No doubt in time I'll get used to the frustration on see all those lovely tankers going bye with their neutral flags while I get the 'Be-Jabbers' knocked out of me by the escorts. Just wait 'till after April 10th. and Wesserubung!! I''l be there waiting. Up the Furher!! I was impressed by the detail about the Tirpitz's turrets. I presume she is fitting out. I saw Hipper too. Ah well, back to work. "Scrape the fungus off the wurste and make me a sarnie with that green brot, Hermann".