Just want to make sure this is clear

John W. Hamm · 05-08-08, 05:29 AM

Below is a link to the Yamato WIP it's a ongoing debate about the use and making of surface ship, that I think everyone should read, you may want to start at page one but this link will take you to page 2

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=136355&page=2

akdavis · 05-08-08, 09:16 AM

I think the most important thing to gather from there and other recent threads is that it is very inappropiate to make requests for your pet ship of the moment. Obviously, a modder is going to be directed first and foremost by their own interests. If they wanted to make their decisions on how they spend their time based on community popularity, I'm sure they would start a thread or a poll.

No more [REQ] for surface ships. Either do it yourself or wait and see what the current producers decide to work on next. I suspect it is these threads that are generating some angst and fueling negative discussions.

It would probably make more sense to focus energy on overcoming some of the huge barriers to surface ship gameplay in SH4 (which may be insurmountable and therefore a big disincentive to indulging requests), rather than on seeing how many new ships can fit into the "garage."

Sailor Steve · 05-08-08, 10:45 AM

I agree with that sentiment. While not much of a modder myself, I get tired of seeing them flooded with requests like "can any of you modders out there make this for me?" Occasionally some modder will actually ask "I'm at a loss for what to do next. Would you rather see this or that?" But those times are rare.

Another favorite peeve is "When will it be done?"

tater · 05-08-08, 10:47 AM

If enough people want something, one of them will have the skill to do it (at least), and others will use it as an excuse to learn how.

If people don't want it... or none that have the skills, then I guess you have to do it yourself or be SOL.

tater

Ducimus · 05-08-08, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Obviously, a modder is going to be directed first and foremost by their own interests. If they wanted to make their decisions on how they spend their time based on community popularity, I'm sure they would start a thread or a poll.

This.

The_Pharoah · 05-08-08, 05:44 PM

I for one have been following these threads since good ole Xantrakoles decided to release the first Fubuki (*pats Fubuki - don't worry girl, daddy will be back to play with you after I'm fed up of playing with your bigger sister - Scheer") and eagerly await any ship release.

All I can do for the moment is play a supporting role, with a few supporting comments or issues to help out the guys developing the mods as I don't have the time or intellect to figure out this modding business. Thats probably what the rest of us should do.

Just support, thank, download and play.

gimpy117 · 05-08-08, 05:53 PM

you can request, but i think it's really up to the modder, don't pound it into heads...

05-08-08, 05:29 AM	#1
John W. Hamm Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Timbuktoo Posts: 331 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Just want to make sure this is clear Below is a link to the Yamato WIP it's a ongoing debate about the use and making of surface ship, that I think everyone should read, you may want to start at page one but this link will take you to page 2 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=136355&page=2 __________________ Elvis has left the building

05-08-08, 09:16 AM	#2
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the most important thing to gather from there and other recent threads is that it is very inappropiate to make requests for your pet ship of the moment. Obviously, a modder is going to be directed first and foremost by their own interests. If they wanted to make their decisions on how they spend their time based on community popularity, I'm sure they would start a thread or a poll. No more [REQ] for surface ships. Either do it yourself or wait and see what the current producers decide to work on next. I suspect it is these threads that are generating some angst and fueling negative discussions. It would probably make more sense to focus energy on overcoming some of the huge barriers to surface ship gameplay in SH4 (which may be insurmountable and therefore a big disincentive to indulging requests), rather than on seeing how many new ships can fit into the "garage." __________________ -AKD Last edited by akdavis; 05-08-08 at 09:51 AM.

05-08-08, 10:45 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I agree with that sentiment. While not much of a modder myself, I get tired of seeing them flooded with requests like "can any of you modders out there make this for me?" Occasionally some modder will actually ask "I'm at a loss for what to do next. Would you rather see this or that?" But those times are rare. Another favorite peeve is "When will it be done?" __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-08-08, 05:53 PM	#7
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	you can request, but i think it's really up to the modder, don't pound it into heads... __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

05-08-08, 10:47 AM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	If enough people want something, one of them will have the skill to do it (at least), and others will use it as an excuse to learn how. If people don't want it... or none that have the skills, then I guess you have to do it yourself or be SOL. tater

05-08-08, 05:44 PM	#6
The_Pharoah Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I for one have been following these threads since good ole Xantrakoles decided to release the first Fubuki (*pats Fubuki - don't worry girl, daddy will be back to play with you after I'm fed up of playing with your bigger sister - Scheer") and eagerly await any ship release. All I can do for the moment is play a supporting role, with a few supporting comments or issues to help out the guys developing the mods as I don't have the time or intellect to figure out this modding business. Thats probably what the rest of us should do. Just support, thank, download and play.