Am I cheating?

kkentopanga · 02-13-07, 08:53 PM

I have became very good at using the targeting/plotting tools in the TDC to sink single ships with only using my periscope once. Once I get a bearing and speed I lower scope and go to my TDC where I imput the bearing as 0 and the AOB as 0, I then watch my moving chart and make adjustments in angle and speed and range till the ship will cross my bow at 90 at any where from 400M to 1000M. The ships show up as ships on the moving plotter and your boot has a line to midship on the target. Once I fire I go to my scope and 90% of the time I see the torp wake heading right where I amed it. It will not work on convoys, too many targets, or warships (to da_ fasdt. If this is a cheat I will quit doing it.

High Voltage · 02-13-07, 10:32 PM

No, it's not cheating, as your tactic relies on setting your firing solution and waiting for your target ship to be in the right position; it just does not represent 100% realism. Too many variables and external factors that would have you constantly re-adjusting your inputs, plus the fact of course, that you would have to manually mark positions on your plotting chart..

But let's wait and see what the pros say about this...

Finback · 02-14-07, 12:35 AM

Besides, no matter how long you last, they always seem to get you in the end

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jasonsagert · 02-14-07, 05:48 AM

Yes kkentopanga, you're cheating.

Actually, you're not. The topic of this thread just made me laugh as I once had a friend tell me, "if you have to ask if you're cheating, then you probably are". Of course it was in reference to a completely different topic.

Just sharing

J

02-18-08, 05:21 AM

i love to cheat!

my decdkguns reload rate is 0 seconds!!

Antiacus · 02-18-08, 07:02 AM

I don't think you can cheat at this game.

After 10 patrols i finally went 97% real (event camera still on) on my last patrol and found it very rewarding to succesfully do my own plotting.

OLC's video guide was very helpful in developing my process for stalking, setting up, etc...

If you were competing against me i'd say yes, you're cheating. But since your on my side, i say sink em all!

-Antiacus

Grayson02sept1980 · 02-18-08, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antiacus

I don't think you can cheat at this game.

After 10 patrols i finally went 97% real (event camera still on) on my last patrol and found it very rewarding to succesfully do my own plotting.

OLC's video guide was very helpful in developing my process for stalking, setting up, etc...

If you were competing against me i'd say yes, you're cheating. But since your on my side, i say sink em all!

-Antiacus

:rotfl:

Pisces · 02-18-08, 10:14 AM

No, you seem to be just doing a guess (if you wonder: 0 bearing and 0 AOB is the target closing head on) and updating it based on observed bearing errors. If you manage to keep the TDC torpedo path plot aligned with the hydrophone sound line for a long enough time, you've got an accurate solution. SH3 just shows it in alot more graphical way than it was in reality ofcourse. But it is in principle correct.

Brag · 02-18-08, 11:02 AM

Having a good torpedo officer aboard and using him is not cheating.

What I would like to see is a xertain ammount of randomness in his performance. Maybe something like less accuracy when tired.

Jimbuna · 02-18-08, 12:32 PM

I don't think 'cheating' is the correct word....more like tweaking the game to reflect your preferences

02-13-07, 08:53 PM	#1
kkentopanga Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Roseville CA Posts: 102 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Am I cheating? I have became very good at using the targeting/plotting tools in the TDC to sink single ships with only using my periscope once. Once I get a bearing and speed I lower scope and go to my TDC where I imput the bearing as 0 and the AOB as 0, I then watch my moving chart and make adjustments in angle and speed and range till the ship will cross my bow at 90 at any where from 400M to 1000M. The ships show up as ships on the moving plotter and your boot has a line to midship on the target. Once I fire I go to my scope and 90% of the time I see the torp wake heading right where I amed it. It will not work on convoys, too many targets, or warships (to da_ fasdt. If this is a cheat I will quit doing it.

02-13-07, 10:32 PM	#2
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No, it's not cheating, as your tactic relies on setting your firing solution and waiting for your target ship to be in the right position; it just does not represent 100% realism. Too many variables and external factors that would have you constantly re-adjusting your inputs, plus the fact of course, that you would have to manually mark positions on your plotting chart.. But let's wait and see what the pros say about this... __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

02-14-07, 12:35 AM	#3
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Besides, no matter how long you last, they always seem to get you in the end . __________________ Past Hatteras the convoys sail, It seems the Allies will prevail. Churchill and Franklin share a grin, They know who's gonna win this sim. Finback

02-18-08, 05:21 AM	#5
magicsub Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	lol i love to cheat! my decdkguns reload rate is 0 seconds!!

02-18-08, 11:02 AM	#9
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Having a good torpedo officer aboard and using him is not cheating. What I would like to see is a xertain ammount of randomness in his performance. Maybe something like less accuracy when tired. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-14-07, 05:48 AM	#4
jasonsagert Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes kkentopanga, you're cheating. Actually, you're not. The topic of this thread just made me laugh as I once had a friend tell me, "if you have to ask if you're cheating, then you probably are". Of course it was in reference to a completely different topic. Just sharing J

02-18-08, 07:02 AM	#6
Antiacus Medic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 161 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I don't think you can cheat at this game. After 10 patrols i finally went 97% real (event camera still on) on my last patrol and found it very rewarding to succesfully do my own plotting. OLC's video guide was very helpful in developing my process for stalking, setting up, etc... If you were competing against me i'd say yes, you're cheating. But since your on my side, i say sink em all! -Antiacus

02-18-08, 10:14 AM	#8
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	No, you seem to be just doing a guess (if you wonder: 0 bearing and 0 AOB is the target closing head on) and updating it based on observed bearing errors. If you manage to keep the TDC torpedo path plot aligned with the hydrophone sound line for a long enough time, you've got an accurate solution. SH3 just shows it in alot more graphical way than it was in reality ofcourse. But it is in principle correct.

02-18-08, 12:32 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I don't think 'cheating' is the correct word....more like tweaking the game to reflect your preferences __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!