Newbie Q

TheOx · 02-03-08, 11:08 AM

Alright, trying my hand at the submarines and having some difficulty picking out the real and "phantom" signatures from my towed array. I watched the tutorial and it said to make some course adjustments and pick the one that stays put. However, I've been finding that both move a bit and its fairly difficult to tell which is which. Any clues from the veteran crowd?

Bubblehead Nuke · 02-03-08, 11:24 AM

Alas, you have come upon the learning curve.

Things like this require practice, practice, and MORE practice. There is no magic trick to it.

Welcome to the board and to the sim.

Kapitan · 02-03-08, 12:20 PM

Ok so what submarine are you learning from first of all? it helps as the kilo and akulas have diffrent sets to the american boats.

Theres plenty of documentation on tacitcs and guides depends how you want to play, www.silentsharksnavy.com for example is a good place to train using DW we do train people to be efficent in any platform they wish.

also www.commanders-academy.com is a good place to speak to alot of people in fleets and also documentation.

www.subguru.com is a good place to get the mods other missions documentation and also misc stuff.

The great thing is all these sites have all branched out in some way from here.

If you want mp battle some time for training then PM me.

sonar732 · 02-03-08, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOx

Alright, trying my hand at the submarines and having some difficulty picking out the real and "phantom" signatures from my towed array. I watched the tutorial and it said to make some course adjustments and pick the one that stays put. However, I've been finding that both move a bit and its fairly difficult to tell which is which. Any clues from the veteran crowd?

This depends on how drastic your course change was. With you being new to the sim, might I suggest anything between 45° and 90° turns. You'll have no trouble seeing the difference between the mirrored contact and true contact. The true contact will stay on the same course, while the mirrored contact will "jump" the direction of your turn in the ITA screen which is usually in the middle screen.

The best way to practice is to create a simple mission with a civilian ship that makes a ton of noise and have your towed array deployed at mission start. On that note, whenever I deploy my array, I have the indicator at ship control stop at the "s". This helps in that you can have a TMA faster than if it was fully deployed.

Pisces · 02-03-08, 01:16 PM

The mirror contact should move twice as much in the direction of the course change.

TheOx · 02-03-08, 03:57 PM

Thanks, I'll get to work!

Edit: PS, I'm using the Seawolf.

Dr.Sid · 02-03-08, 04:01 PM

Also watch for array 'kick'. If you go straight, and start turning, for a moment array will turn in opposite direction. In this moment all contacts may move a bit. Only at steady turn the real contact will stabilize on some bearing while mirror contact will move.

02-03-08, 11:08 AM	#1
TheOx Watch Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Newbie Q Alright, trying my hand at the submarines and having some difficulty picking out the real and "phantom" signatures from my towed array. I watched the tutorial and it said to make some course adjustments and pick the one that stays put. However, I've been finding that both move a bit and its fairly difficult to tell which is which. Any clues from the veteran crowd?

02-03-08, 12:20 PM	#3
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Ok so what submarine are you learning from first of all? it helps as the kilo and akulas have diffrent sets to the american boats. Theres plenty of documentation on tacitcs and guides depends how you want to play, www.silentsharksnavy.com for example is a good place to train using DW we do train people to be efficent in any platform they wish. also www.commanders-academy.com is a good place to speak to alot of people in fleets and also documentation. www.subguru.com is a good place to get the mods other missions documentation and also misc stuff. The great thing is all these sites have all branched out in some way from here. If you want mp battle some time for training then PM me. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-03-08, 03:57 PM	#6
TheOx Watch Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Thanks, I'll get to work! Edit: PS, I'm using the Seawolf. Last edited by TheOx; 02-03-08 at 04:52 PM.

02-03-08, 11:24 AM	#2
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Alas, you have come upon the learning curve. Things like this require practice, practice, and MORE practice. There is no magic trick to it. Welcome to the board and to the sim.

02-03-08, 01:16 PM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	The mirror contact should move twice as much in the direction of the course change.

02-03-08, 04:01 PM	#7
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Also watch for array 'kick'. If you go straight, and start turning, for a moment array will turn in opposite direction. In this moment all contacts may move a bit. Only at steady turn the real contact will stabilize on some bearing while mirror contact will move.