The Enemy Below

deepboat · 02-03-08, 04:43 PM

Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional?

Brag · 02-03-08, 09:01 PM

I saw the movie, not bad but let's say a touch Holliwoodish? I would not take any details to seriously.

Sailor Steve · 02-03-08, 11:05 PM

Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies, but it does have its flaws. Don't even think about comparing the 'u-boat' interior with the one from Das Boot.

Kaptain Hans Wolf · 02-05-08, 06:46 AM

well i wouldent say its as hollywoodish as u-571, but it certanly is no das-boot.

Jimbuna · 02-05-08, 08:28 AM

I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm:

Oberon · 02-05-08, 08:37 AM

The radar set in SHII showed a dip or raise in a flat line, it's height based upon the strength of return I think. I haven't got far enough in SHIII to use radar yet, and probably wouldn't anyway due to my Sub Command/Dangerous Waters upbringing (RADAR on surface = Death), so I have no idea what SHIII radar is like...

Chisum · 02-14-08, 08:27 PM

"The ennemy below" is one of my prefered because i like hollywood simplicity in the world war movie from this time. And Michum still a great actor like Jurgen.

I like also "Torpedo run" witch is the same construction.

And other movie I like is named "Operation Tirpitz"(B/W), a big and dangerous mission with pocket submarines again the Tirpizt in a fjord, many suspens.

And of course, "Run silent, run deep" with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, a famous submarine movie. Fantastic music at the beginning too.

Don't forget "Sink the Bismarck", a must.

Das boat is very extraordinnary, very immersiv, absolutly perfect, but...to real. For me, Hollywood movies from 1950/1960 are more pleasants to watch.

For your question, i don't know but there is many mistakes and impossibilities in this movie.
For exemple, the american Captain who looks his watch to know when he must change his cap to escape the torpedo lol. Or the german kaleun always go in the 1-4-0 and never thing that the american knows that.
That's Hollywood.

Blacklight · 02-14-08, 08:52 PM

I love how early Hollywood made submarines look in the majority of the films and TV shows. Nice, spacious, everyone had their own room or they shared a room with a bunk mate. Everyone had perfect hair, nice clean shaven, always showered looking, never sweaty (When I watch Das Boot, I SWEAR I can smell that crew just by looking at them). Everyone was always smiling with perfect white teeth. There was so much space on that sub that I wouldn't have been surprised to see a bowling alley and a ballroom with a concert piano in there.:rotfl:

FIREWALL · 02-14-08, 09:21 PM

CURT JERGENS = KOOL

I also liked him in Battle of Britain.

Jon - Real Names of Famous Folk - JuCurt Jurgens, Actor; Curd Gustav Andreas Gottlieb Franz Jürgens (Solln, Bavaria, Germany 13 December 1915 - 18 June 1982). ...

Died of acute heart attack.

Sniper_Fox · 02-14-08, 10:32 PM

awesome movie, i like how at the end the 2 captains work togther to save a man, nad they really make the german captain seem human unlike most warmovies at the time, as they would make the germans look like evil ****bags of death

dasboot = best warmovie made

then great escape, steve mcqueen is my hero!

Pablo · 02-14-08, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deepboat

Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional?

Hi!

The German radar oscilloscope shown in The Enemy Below is an "A-scope" display. It is the same type of display used by U-boats until the Type XXI, but I don't know if it looks exactly like a U-boat radar display. The Allied radar in the same movie uses a Plan Position Indicator (PPI), which was used historically by Allied ships later in the war.

See Appendix A of the GWX Manual for a longer dissertation.

Pablo

Pablo · 02-14-08, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm:

Hi!

Actually, I think it is supposed to be a Type IX. I paused a few of the underwater scenes, and it looks to me as if the movie's special effects department took a Gato-class submarine model and filled in two of the Gato-class boat's six forward tubes, and two of its aft tubes, leaving four forward and two aft - the same as a Type IX - as well as putting in a U-boat conning tower and adding the mine cutter for good measure.

Pablo

Chisum · 02-15-08, 09:48 AM

Some(bad 'cause increase brightness) pics of the movie.

Blacklight · 02-15-08, 12:57 PM

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Tropical fish spotted !! Head toward the hollow castle !!

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Someone put drain plug in sir !!!! OH NO !! THEY'RE ADDING BUBBLE BATH !!!

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DIVE !! DAMN IT !!! DIVE !!! Sir !!! We're almost out of baking soda !!!! ALAAAAAARM !!!

Jimbuna · 02-15-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

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Tropical fish spotted !! Head toward the hollow castle !!

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Someone put drain plug in sir !!!! OH NO !! THEY'RE ADDING BUBBLE BATH !!!

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DIVE !! DAMN IT !!! DIVE !!! Sir !!! We're almost out of baking soda !!!! ALAAAAAARM !!!

LMAO

02-03-08, 04:43 PM	#1
deepboat Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In an Octopuss' Garden Posts: 99 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	The Enemy Below Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional? __________________ Smoke on the horizon captain!

02-03-08, 09:01 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I saw the movie, not bad but let's say a touch Holliwoodish? I would not take any details to seriously. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-03-08, 11:05 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies, but it does have its flaws. Don't even think about comparing the 'u-boat' interior with the one from Das Boot. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-05-08, 06:46 AM	#4
Kaptain Hans Wolf A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 75 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	hey well i wouldent say its as hollywoodish as u-571, but it certanly is no das-boot. __________________ Kaptain Hans Wolf U-48 Type VII B U Boot Flotilla Wegener 3 patrols 48.291 tonnes sunk "i do not know what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"

02-05-08, 08:28 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-05-08, 08:37 AM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The radar set in SHII showed a dip or raise in a flat line, it's height based upon the strength of return I think. I haven't got far enough in SHIII to use radar yet, and probably wouldn't anyway due to my Sub Command/Dangerous Waters upbringing (RADAR on surface = Death), so I have no idea what SHIII radar is like...

02-14-08, 08:27 PM	#7
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	"The ennemy below" is one of my prefered because i like hollywood simplicity in the world war movie from this time. And Michum still a great actor like Jurgen. I like also "Torpedo run" witch is the same construction. And other movie I like is named "Operation Tirpitz"(B/W), a big and dangerous mission with pocket submarines again the Tirpizt in a fjord, many suspens. And of course, "Run silent, run deep" with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, a famous submarine movie. Fantastic music at the beginning too. Don't forget "Sink the Bismarck", a must. Das boat is very extraordinnary, very immersiv, absolutly perfect, but...to real. For me, Hollywood movies from 1950/1960 are more pleasants to watch. For your question, i don't know but there is many mistakes and impossibilities in this movie. For exemple, the american Captain who looks his watch to know when he must change his cap to escape the torpedo lol. Or the german kaleun always go in the 1-4-0 and never thing that the american knows that. That's Hollywood. __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/

02-14-08, 08:52 PM	#8
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I love how early Hollywood made submarines look in the majority of the films and TV shows. Nice, spacious, everyone had their own room or they shared a room with a bunk mate. Everyone had perfect hair, nice clean shaven, always showered looking, never sweaty (When I watch Das Boot, I SWEAR I can smell that crew just by looking at them). Everyone was always smiling with perfect white teeth. There was so much space on that sub that I wouldn't have been surprised to see a bowling alley and a ballroom with a concert piano in there.:rotfl: __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

02-14-08, 09:21 PM	#9
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	CURT JERGENS = KOOL I also liked him in Battle of Britain. Jon - Real Names of Famous Folk - JuCurt Jurgens, Actor; Curd Gustav Andreas Gottlieb Franz Jürgens (Solln, Bavaria, Germany 13 December 1915 - 18 June 1982). ... Died of acute heart attack. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-14-08, 10:32 PM	#10
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	awesome movie, i like how at the end the 2 captains work togther to save a man, nad they really make the german captain seem human unlike most warmovies at the time, as they would make the germans look like evil ****bags of death dasboot = best warmovie made then great escape, steve mcqueen is my hero! __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

02-15-08, 09:48 AM	#13
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Some(bad 'cause increase brightness) pics of the movie. __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/