Tokyo Bay

Lagger123987 · 12-16-07, 09:08 PM

How do I go inside the bay without being spotted? 4 times I try to go in, but always sunk by the harbor patrols, including one of my creations.

tater · 12-16-07, 11:29 PM

No real subs ever went there, so I'd not bother trying

Lagger123987 · 12-16-07, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

No real subs ever went there, so I'd not bother trying

It's a photo recon mission in my career, been playing stock except a few tweaks that I made.

John W. Hamm · 12-17-07, 06:02 AM

Are you submerged ? ... or our you just floating across the top of the water in broad daylight ?, do you try to travel on the surface at night ? and below during the day? I have done that mission several times got sunk once , and got some big holes in me another, but the other couple went rather well. Stay away from shore battery's, try to travel on top only at night. and stick close to the bottom (which isn't hard, it's shallow) during the day. and you'll be fine.

Good Luck,
John Hamm

tomoose · 12-17-07, 08:08 AM

There's a couple of those "far-fetched" missions which IMHO are historically out-of-whack and on the whole didn't make sense. In the stock version I basically ignored them. The mods such as TM, RSRD make things a little more realistic.

Snuffy · 12-17-07, 12:10 PM

Getting in is not the problem. It's having enough battery to make it out after you're there that's the problem.

Submerge early enough at the mouth and hug the bottom at 2nm, You will not be able to surface the entire trip, so make sure yer batteries are full.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

rrmelend · 12-17-07, 02:02 PM

I'd take John W Hamms advice. Before I installed TM awhile ago I got those crappy photo missions inside the bay. I tried to enter into the harbor in the middle of the night on the surface. It usually worked and once I spotted a patrol craft I'd go under. Keep trying.

Lagger123987 · 12-17-07, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John W. Hamm

Are you submerged ? ... or our you just floating across the top of the water in broad daylight ?, do you try to travel on the surface at night ? and below during the day? I have done that mission several times got sunk once , and got some big holes in me another, but the other couple went rather well. Stay away from shore battery's, try to travel on top only at night. and stick close to the bottom (which isn't hard, it's shallow) during the day. and you'll be fine.

Good Luck,
John Hamm

Yes, I'm submerged and below the water during the day and up during the night. I do stay away from shore guns, but everytime I go to Tokyo Bay, I always get there when it is daylight. But my plans have been foiled by harbor patrols, including a Yamato laden with lots of DCs.

bookworm_020 · 12-17-07, 09:28 PM

Heep your speed at 2 knots or less. Keep track of the patrol vessals and take note how long they take to make a complete loop of their patrol area, you can then splip past when their elsewhere.

Also aim to enter just as night falls and have a full battery. Stay doggo on the bottom if during daylight hours if your worried about moving during daylight!

Best of luck

Lagger123987 · 12-17-07, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Heep your speed at 2 knots or less. Keep track of the patrol vessals and take note how long they take to make a complete loop of their patrol area, you can then splip past when their elsewhere.

Also aim to enter just as night falls and have a full battery. Stay doggo on the bottom if during daylight hours if your worried about moving during daylight!

Best of luck

I did go silent running and under 2 knots, but da DD Yamato is always in my tail. It's that ship that kill me.

Lagger123987 · 12-17-07, 11:39 PM

Manage to get in Tokyo Bay and sunk all of the harbor patrols, but after I sunk the last harbor patrol, a TF just enter Tokyo Bay! 5 BBs, a few CAs and CLs and a number of DDs.

Snuffy · 12-18-07, 07:50 AM

I've been there at least twice on two different careers. The Yamoto has always been there and it's always been "dead in the water" to me. It won't fire up, it doesn't patrol, it just sits there. (Even when I did send 3 torps into her once, she just sat there and slowly started to list.)

Even so, I stay well away from it and any other ships or boats. I wouldn't even think of sinking a patroling craft for fear of the entire bay emptying on my ass.

I would say the best way to play this senario is to avoid everything, fire nothing, and just get your pictures and get out!

Trust me, at 2 knots and 1:1 time, this mission will take 3 days of your time to complete. (Once I entered the harbour, I finished the mission at TC 1:1.)

(Sometimes I am not so sure that upping the TC doesn't make the sensors more ... well ... sensitive?)

Peto · 12-18-07, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Snuffy

(Sometimes I am not so sure that upping the TC doesn't make the sensors more ... well ... sensitive?)

Though I don't have any data to back this up, I tend to agree. I seem to have better luck remaining undetected if I stay in RT...

John W. Hamm · 12-18-07, 09:10 AM

I'm in agreement with the other post's in here but let me add, You said that you always get there in the day time and when you come up they get you ??

"Yes, I'm submerged and below the water during the day and up during the night. I do stay away from shore guns, but everytime I go to Tokyo Bay, I always get there when it is daylight. But my plans have been foiled by harbor patrols, including a Yamato laden with lots of DCs."

At this point I just wait on the bottom untill dark where as you have limited battery your air is not near as limited I don't even think you would cut it close, I don't remembver it being close anyway. and of course If you do come up just do it long enough to get air while in the harbor, you can take the photos while at periscope depth. then as after you leave the main harbor (and its still dark out) and you find you have to recharge your battery's or need air, make sure no one is around and come to the surface in this case though you have to be careful of shore battery's. I go to the middle of their pond to do this at night.

hope that helps some more.

John Hamm

12-16-07, 09:08 PM	#1
Lagger123987 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Little Saigon, San Jose, California Posts: 944 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 4	Tokyo Bay How do I go inside the bay without being spotted? 4 times I try to go in, but always sunk by the harbor patrols, including one of my creations. __________________

12-17-07, 06:02 AM	#4
John W. Hamm Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Timbuktoo Posts: 331 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Sunk ? Are you submerged ? ... or our you just floating across the top of the water in broad daylight ?, do you try to travel on the surface at night ? and below during the day? I have done that mission several times got sunk once , and got some big holes in me another, but the other couple went rather well. Stay away from shore battery's, try to travel on top only at night. and stick close to the bottom (which isn't hard, it's shallow) during the day. and you'll be fine. Good Luck, John Hamm __________________ Elvis has left the building

12-17-07, 08:08 AM	#5
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	I'm with tater on this one There's a couple of those "far-fetched" missions which IMHO are historically out-of-whack and on the whole didn't make sense. In the stock version I basically ignored them. The mods such as TM, RSRD make things a little more realistic.

12-17-07, 12:10 PM	#6
Snuffy XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 420 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Getting in is not the problem. It's having enough battery to make it out after you're there that's the problem. Submerge early enough at the mouth and hug the bottom at 2nm, You will not be able to surface the entire trip, so make sure yer batteries are full. Good Luck and keep us posted. __________________ ----------------- Snuffy!

12-17-07, 09:28 PM	#9
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Heep your speed at 2 knots or less. Keep track of the patrol vessals and take note how long they take to make a complete loop of their patrol area, you can then splip past when their elsewhere. Also aim to enter just as night falls and have a full battery. Stay doggo on the bottom if during daylight hours if your worried about moving during daylight! Best of luck __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

12-16-07, 11:29 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	No real subs ever went there, so I'd not bother trying

12-17-07, 02:02 PM	#7
rrmelend Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 162 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I'd take John W Hamms advice. Before I installed TM awhile ago I got those crappy photo missions inside the bay. I tried to enter into the harbor in the middle of the night on the surface. It usually worked and once I spotted a patrol craft I'd go under. Keep trying.

12-17-07, 11:39 PM	#11
Lagger123987 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Little Saigon, San Jose, California Posts: 944 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 4	Manage to get in Tokyo Bay and sunk all of the harbor patrols, but after I sunk the last harbor patrol, a TF just enter Tokyo Bay! 5 BBs, a few CAs and CLs and a number of DDs. __________________

12-18-07, 07:50 AM	#12
Snuffy XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 420 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I've been there at least twice on two different careers. The Yamoto has always been there and it's always been "dead in the water" to me. It won't fire up, it doesn't patrol, it just sits there. (Even when I did send 3 torps into her once, she just sat there and slowly started to list.) Even so, I stay well away from it and any other ships or boats. I wouldn't even think of sinking a patroling craft for fear of the entire bay emptying on my ass. I would say the best way to play this senario is to avoid everything, fire nothing, and just get your pictures and get out! Trust me, at 2 knots and 1:1 time, this mission will take 3 days of your time to complete. (Once I entered the harbour, I finished the mission at TC 1:1.) (Sometimes I am not so sure that upping the TC doesn't make the sensors more ... well ... sensitive?) __________________ ----------------- Snuffy!

12-18-07, 09:10 AM	#14
John W. Hamm Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Timbuktoo Posts: 331 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	An addition I'm in agreement with the other post's in here but let me add, You said that you always get there in the day time and when you come up they get you ?? "Yes, I'm submerged and below the water during the day and up during the night. I do stay away from shore guns, but everytime I go to Tokyo Bay, I always get there when it is daylight. But my plans have been foiled by harbor patrols, including a Yamato laden with lots of DCs." At this point I just wait on the bottom untill dark where as you have limited battery your air is not near as limited I don't even think you would cut it close, I don't remembver it being close anyway. and of course If you do come up just do it long enough to get air while in the harbor, you can take the photos while at periscope depth. then as after you leave the main harbor (and its still dark out) and you find you have to recharge your battery's or need air, make sure no one is around and come to the surface in this case though you have to be careful of shore battery's. I go to the middle of their pond to do this at night. hope that helps some more. John Hamm __________________ Elvis has left the building