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Lagger123987 12-16-07 09:08 PM

Tokyo Bay
 
How do I go inside the bay without being spotted? 4 times I try to go in, but always sunk by the harbor patrols, including one of my creations.

tater 12-16-07 11:29 PM

No real subs ever went there, so I'd not bother trying ;)

Lagger123987 12-16-07 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater
No real subs ever went there, so I'd not bother trying ;)

It's a photo recon mission in my career, been playing stock except a few tweaks that I made.

John W. Hamm 12-17-07 06:02 AM

Sunk ?
 
Are you submerged ? ... or our you just floating across the top of the water in broad daylight ?, do you try to travel on the surface at night ? and below during the day? I have done that mission several times got sunk once , and got some big holes in me another, but the other couple went rather well. Stay away from shore battery's, try to travel on top only at night. and stick close to the bottom (which isn't hard, it's shallow) during the day. and you'll be fine.:up:

Good Luck,
John Hamm

tomoose 12-17-07 08:08 AM

I'm with tater on this one
 
There's a couple of those "far-fetched" missions which IMHO are historically out-of-whack and on the whole didn't make sense. In the stock version I basically ignored them. The mods such as TM, RSRD make things a little more realistic.

Snuffy 12-17-07 12:10 PM

Getting in is not the problem. It's having enough battery to make it out after you're there that's the problem.

Submerge early enough at the mouth and hug the bottom at 2nm, You will not be able to surface the entire trip, so make sure yer batteries are full.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

rrmelend 12-17-07 02:02 PM

I'd take John W Hamms advice. Before I installed TM awhile ago I got those crappy photo missions inside the bay. I tried to enter into the harbor in the middle of the night on the surface. It usually worked and once I spotted a patrol craft I'd go under. Keep trying.

Lagger123987 12-17-07 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm
Are you submerged ? ... or our you just floating across the top of the water in broad daylight ?, do you try to travel on the surface at night ? and below during the day? I have done that mission several times got sunk once , and got some big holes in me another, but the other couple went rather well. Stay away from shore battery's, try to travel on top only at night. and stick close to the bottom (which isn't hard, it's shallow) during the day. and you'll be fine.:up:

Good Luck,
John Hamm

Yes, I'm submerged and below the water during the day and up during the night. I do stay away from shore guns, but everytime I go to Tokyo Bay, I always get there when it is daylight. But my plans have been foiled by harbor patrols, including a Yamato laden with lots of DCs.

bookworm_020 12-17-07 09:28 PM

Heep your speed at 2 knots or less. Keep track of the patrol vessals and take note how long they take to make a complete loop of their patrol area, you can then splip past when their elsewhere.

Also aim to enter just as night falls and have a full battery. Stay doggo on the bottom if during daylight hours if your worried about moving during daylight!

Best of luck:up:

Lagger123987 12-17-07 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bookworm_020
Heep your speed at 2 knots or less. Keep track of the patrol vessals and take note how long they take to make a complete loop of their patrol area, you can then splip past when their elsewhere.

Also aim to enter just as night falls and have a full battery. Stay doggo on the bottom if during daylight hours if your worried about moving during daylight!

Best of luck:up:

I did go silent running and under 2 knots, but da DD Yamato is always in my tail. It's that ship that kill me.

Lagger123987 12-17-07 11:39 PM

Manage to get in Tokyo Bay and sunk all of the harbor patrols, but after I sunk the last harbor patrol, a TF just enter Tokyo Bay! 5 BBs, a few CAs and CLs and a number of DDs.

Snuffy 12-18-07 07:50 AM

I've been there at least twice on two different careers. The Yamoto has always been there and it's always been "dead in the water" to me. It won't fire up, it doesn't patrol, it just sits there. (Even when I did send 3 torps into her once, she just sat there and slowly started to list.)

Even so, I stay well away from it and any other ships or boats. I wouldn't even think of sinking a patroling craft for fear of the entire bay emptying on my ass.

I would say the best way to play this senario is to avoid everything, fire nothing, and just get your pictures and get out!

Trust me, at 2 knots and 1:1 time, this mission will take 3 days of your time to complete. (Once I entered the harbour, I finished the mission at TC 1:1.)

(Sometimes I am not so sure that upping the TC doesn't make the sensors more ... well ... sensitive?)

Peto 12-18-07 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Snuffy
(Sometimes I am not so sure that upping the TC doesn't make the sensors more ... well ... sensitive?)

Though I don't have any data to back this up, I tend to agree. I seem to have better luck remaining undetected if I stay in RT...

John W. Hamm 12-18-07 09:10 AM

An addition
 
I'm in agreement with the other post's in here but let me add, You said that you always get there in the day time and when you come up they get you ??

"Yes, I'm submerged and below the water during the day and up during the night. I do stay away from shore guns, but everytime I go to Tokyo Bay, I always get there when it is daylight. But my plans have been foiled by harbor patrols, including a Yamato laden with lots of DCs."


At this point I just wait on the bottom untill dark where as you have limited battery your air is not near as limited I don't even think you would cut it close, I don't remembver it being close anyway. and of course If you do come up just do it long enough to get air while in the harbor, you can take the photos while at periscope depth. then as after you leave the main harbor (and its still dark out) and you find you have to recharge your battery's or need air, make sure no one is around and come to the surface in this case though you have to be careful of shore battery's. I go to the middle of their pond to do this at night.

hope that helps some more.

John Hamm


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