Museum Balao Class Fleet Boat Has TWO Deck Guns ~ BUT~ Not In The Game ~ Why Not ???

Squad_Commander · 09-13-07, 11:57 AM

Ahoy Captains ~ Permission grated too come aboard

Question: In Museum Under American Submarine, Balao Class Fleet Boat Has TWO Deck Guns ~ BUT~ Not In The Game ~ Why Not ???

Thx u in advance for your time and any help given.

ReDRuM71 · 09-13-07, 12:32 PM

Hey, isnt this the poster formerly known as "Grim Reaper"? Same greeting and use of the "~" key:hmm:

Squad_Commander · 09-13-07, 02:23 PM

"You Talkin To Me ?" ~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~ Then who the hell else are you talkin too ~ Well I'm the only one here.

Too answer the question, [NO] Thats my younger genus brother, He's the alien of the family. He's The Grim Reaper ~ He's The Man From Planet X ~ and most of the time he's not even on this planet you call Earth ???

SteamWake · 09-13-07, 02:47 PM

Lordy here we go again.

Question should be why does the museum piece have two guns ? Probably a late war retrofit.

mookiemookie · 09-13-07, 03:54 PM

My guess is that the in-game models have a place for both forward and rear gun mounts. My uneducated guess anyways!

I love the "oh that's my brother" defense, too. Another for the ignore list.

mrbeast · 09-13-07, 05:40 PM

All the submarines in the museum are in their late war, 1945, configuration. If you notice all the boats, even the earlier pre war ones, have cut down conning towers, grey paint schemes etc. The Balao class often mounted a second deck gun at the end of the war. Think it was because the Japanese had lost so much merchant tonnage that they were increasingly using smaller 1000 ton, and below, 'sea trucks' and the like which made viable tagets to sink with gunfire.

NEON DEON · 09-13-07, 05:55 PM

Yes some US subs were converted to gunboats in 1945.

"Most submarines lacked effective surface fire control systems, but seven submarines (SS-229, 340, 399, 401, 406, 407 and 408) were converted to "gunboats" during 1945. These boats carried two 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns, a Mark 6 stable vertical, a Mark 6 computer and a gun plot installed in the forward crew quarters. The computer drove repeaters at the guns."

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-25_mk10.htm

The game does not allow you to start a campaign in 1945. So you might have to wait for a refit before you can get your 2 deck guns.

JSF · 09-13-07, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squad_Commander

"You Talkin To Me ?" ~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~ Then who the hell else are you talkin too ~ Well I'm the only one here.

Too answer the question, [NO] Thats my younger genus brother, He's the alien of the family. He's The Grim Reaper ~ He's The Man From Planet X ~ and most of the time he's not even on this planet you call Earth ???

LMAO........:rotfl:

Squad_Commander · 09-13-07, 09:00 PM

I would like to apologies for my younger brother, The Grim Reaper ~ The Man From Planet X.

He said you ALL had the intelligence, The IQ of Forrest Gumps.

These Retardate's are more like the idiots that watch show's like, The Jerry Springer Show, We all know the IQ of the TV Ordinanves of those shows.

I'm sorry Forrest Gump, That was an insult too you Forrest, compairing you to these idiots, Makes you look like a Geniuses.

We all know their the "Stupid is as stupid does"

Thx U in advance for taking the time too read this thread and again, I'm sorry Forrest

We both can C the Destroyers coming now, so we're taking our boat down, CRASH DIVE, Diving Station, Rig For Depth Charges, Hang on boy's, it's going too get rough.

theluckyone17 · 09-13-07, 09:15 PM

So... if we're all so stupid, how come you're asking us the questions? Huh? Huh? :hmm:

(Yeah, momma always said never to feed the trolls, but I'm not one to listen...)

Fat Bhoy Tim · 09-14-07, 01:00 AM

My brother this, my brother that.

Squad_Commander · 09-14-07, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

My brother this, my brother that.

Not even Albert Einstein was right all the time

SteamWake · 09-14-07, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squad_Commander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

My brother this, my brother that.

Not even Albert Einstein was right all the time

What on earth does this have to do with the topic at hand and what does it contribute to the community.

Just another troll in my view.

AVGWarhawk · 09-14-07, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squad_Commander

I would like to apologies for my younger brother, The Grim Reaper ~ The Man From Planet X.

He said you ALL had the intelligence, The IQ of Forrest Gumps.

These Retardate's are more like the idiots that watch show's like, The Jerry Springer Show, We all know the IQ of the TV Ordinanves of those shows.

I'm sorry Forrest Gump, That was an insult too you Forrest, compairing you to these idiots, Makes you look like a Geniuses.

We all know their the "Stupid is as stupid does"

Thx U in advance for taking the time too read this thread and again, I'm sorry Forrest

We both can C the Destroyers coming now, so we're taking our boat down, CRASH DIVE, Diving Station, Rig For Depth Charges, Hang on boy's, it's going too get rough.

It is odd how the OP turns the thread around himself and feeds it until it becomes this

Have a nice day. Thread closed.

09-13-07, 11:57 AM	#1
Squad_Commander Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Museum Balao Class Fleet Boat Has TWO Deck Guns ~ BUT~ Not In The Game ~ Why Not ??? Ahoy Captains ~ Permission grated too come aboard Question: In Museum Under American Submarine, Balao Class Fleet Boat Has TWO Deck Guns ~ BUT~ Not In The Game ~ Why Not ??? Thx u in advance for your time and any help given.

09-13-07, 12:32 PM	#2
ReDRuM71 Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 51 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Why the name change? Hey, isnt this the poster formerly known as "Grim Reaper"? Same greeting and use of the "~" key:hmm: __________________

09-13-07, 02:23 PM	#3
Squad_Commander Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"You Talkin To Me ?" "You Talkin To Me ?" ~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~~ "You Talkin To Me ?" ~ Then who the hell else are you talkin too ~ Well I'm the only one here. Too answer the question, [NO] Thats my younger genus brother, He's the alien of the family. He's The Grim Reaper ~ He's The Man From Planet X ~ and most of the time he's not even on this planet you call Earth ???

09-13-07, 03:54 PM	#5
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	My guess is that the in-game models have a place for both forward and rear gun mounts. My uneducated guess anyways! I love the "oh that's my brother" defense, too. Another for the ignore list. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

09-13-07, 05:55 PM	#7
NEON DEON Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 5	Yes some US subs were converted to gunboats in 1945. "Most submarines lacked effective surface fire control systems, but seven submarines (SS-229, 340, 399, 401, 406, 407 and 408) were converted to "gunboats" during 1945. These boats carried two 5"/25 (12.7 cm) guns, a Mark 6 stable vertical, a Mark 6 computer and a gun plot installed in the forward crew quarters. The computer drove repeaters at the guns." http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-25_mk10.htm The game does not allow you to start a campaign in 1945. So you might have to wait for a refit before you can get your 2 deck guns. __________________ Diesel Boats Forever!

09-13-07, 02:47 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Lordy here we go again. Question should be why does the museum piece have two guns ? Probably a late war retrofit.

09-13-07, 05:40 PM	#6
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All the submarines in the museum are in their late war, 1945, configuration. If you notice all the boats, even the earlier pre war ones, have cut down conning towers, grey paint schemes etc. The Balao class often mounted a second deck gun at the end of the war. Think it was because the Japanese had lost so much merchant tonnage that they were increasingly using smaller 1000 ton, and below, 'sea trucks' and the like which made viable tagets to sink with gunfire.

09-13-07, 09:00 PM	#9
Squad_Commander Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"Stupid is as stupid does" I would like to apologies for my younger brother, The Grim Reaper ~ The Man From Planet X. He said you ALL had the intelligence, The IQ of Forrest Gumps. These Retardate's are more like the idiots that watch show's like, The Jerry Springer Show, We all know the IQ of the TV Ordinanves of those shows. I'm sorry Forrest Gump, That was an insult too you Forrest, compairing you to these idiots, Makes you look like a Geniuses. We all know their the "Stupid is as stupid does" Thx U in advance for taking the time too read this thread and again, I'm sorry Forrest We both can C the Destroyers coming now, so we're taking our boat down, CRASH DIVE, Diving Station, Rig For Depth Charges, Hang on boy's, it's going too get rough. Last edited by Squad_Commander; 09-13-07 at 09:18 PM.

09-13-07, 09:15 PM	#10
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	So... if we're all so stupid, how come you're asking us the questions? Huh? Huh? :hmm: (Yeah, momma always said never to feed the trolls, but I'm not one to listen...)

09-14-07, 01:00 AM	#11
Fat Bhoy Tim Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 338 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	My brother this, my brother that. __________________ Some men are born great, some achieve greatness, and some will always be total gits.