Anyone ever seen this before?

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 05:04 PM

So, I'd sunk one merchant and gone out of my way to chase down another for relocation to the bargain basement. After a while I get him relocated and am heading back past the first sunken merchant on my way back to my patrol area. I spy a bit of fire on the water

I'm admiring the nice reflections on the water (thanks Leo!) from the flames (yes, I really am a pyromaniac)

The closer I get, the more I'm wondering what it is that could still be burning an hour or two after the sinking. Oh well, admire some more reflections as I'm closing in on the flames...

Then it's "what the he double hockey sticks?" time

These guys must be noobs and not know how to properly operate the "Barbeque grill in the dinghy" mod

Oh, well, they ended up getting what they deserve for playing with matches

Sailor Steve · 09-10-07, 05:08 PM

Yep, they ignored the 'No Smoking Within 500 Feet" signs.

leovampire · 09-10-07, 05:10 PM

on the surface of the ocean is what you are seeing Digital_Trucker from the zone's file I sent you.

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by leovampire

on the surface of the ocean is what you are seeing Digital_Trucker from the zone's file I sent you.

I figured it was something like that and I should have taken some shots after the dinghy capsized and sank (sort of) because the flames went to almost nothing afterwards. Maybe the game engine actually knows that the "extra fuel" for the fire (the wooden dinghy) was underwater?

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Yep, they ignored the 'No Smoking Within 500 Feet" signs.

They say ignorance is bliss, but in this case I don't think so :p

tater · 09-10-07, 05:26 PM

I have seen some burning lifeboats before myself.

tater

leovampire · 09-10-07, 05:44 PM

or the ship you sunk from earlier? I reduced the flood time for the fires on the ocean effect. But maybe I need to adjust it more. Something I did for Die Slowly and Redwine some new effect's but if it was the life boat then I have to fix that ASAP.

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 06:38 PM

it was coming from the lifeboat. The lifeboat was in the location of the sunken ship, so it could be a coincidence that the lifeboat was parked in the burning oil/fuel. After the lifeboat capsized and submerged the fire went almost down to nothing, but it was still there. At that point, I don't know whether the fire was burning fuel/oil or leftover from the lifeboat.

I didn't mean for this to be anything that needed fixing, I just thought it was funny. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless, of course, they start showing up all over the place. I probably should remove the "barbeque grill in the dinghy mod" and see if it happens any more.:rotfl:

leovampire · 09-10-07, 06:42 PM

Redwine Plans on doing another Die Slowly release with some of my effect's so I have to fix things like that. I am very glad you told me about it. Thanks!

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by leovampire

Redwine Plans on doing another Die Slowly release with some of my effect's so I have to fix things like that. I am very glad you told me about it. Thanks!

Don't start digging too hard. I need to check something first. What files would those changes have been in. I think I did a hybrid mod for myself because I was afraid of messing with WernerSobes realistic sinking work. It may be a problem because of the way I "mixed and matched" the mods or it may not even be mod related. Besides, I'm working on a "marshmallow toasting" mission to go with it.

leovampire · 09-10-07, 07:02 PM

exactly what Wernersab and Redwine base the main work in sinking effect's and so forth.

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 07:05 PM

but I'm almost positive I left the .zon files alone because I was using Werners "classic" version of Natural Sinking.

leovampire · 09-10-07, 07:07 PM

it is inside of the Data folder just like the scene.dat file is

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 07:16 PM

that happens a lot to me

Seriously, no I didn't use the zones file from your mod because I thought it would cause a problem with Natural Sinking. I meant to go back and serioulsy compare the two with ExamDiff so I could decide how to combine the two, but I never have gotten around to it and hadn't noticed any major problems.

leovampire · 09-10-07, 07:29 PM

so I took the zone file from Trigger Maru which is the light vs of Werner's work and built some effect's on top of his work. I didn't change a single line of his work as far as the sinking stuff and flooding of the compartment's nothing. Just added some new cargo's I created and new special effect's to go along with it.

Only shared it with friends basicly because I didn't think werner would be happy about changing anything in there. His stuff is still in full effect just new FX and cargo added. Made a specific Engine Oil and Engine Fuel for the engine rooms and Fuel Bunkers that works seperatly from the normal Oil and Fuel cargo's the tankers carry to create a whole new set of FX's then added the missing Medium Weapon's set up for the war ship's and stuff for that. Added a total of like 10 new cargo's and FX's for them and the game.

Digital_Trucker · 09-10-07, 08:02 PM

I use the "Classic" version rather than the "Light" version so (if my memory serves me correctly, odds are pretty low) I was going to compare your file with Werner's light file to get the changes you made for the effects and cargo and make those changes to my "Classic" and I would have the best of all worlds. Somewhere in there, I forgot all about doing that (gonna write it down this time).

Anyway, back to where this all started from (a little humor gone awry). I don't think the burning lifeboats are that much of a problem (just a little humorous).

09-10-07, 05:04 PM	#1
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Anyone ever seen this before? So, I'd sunk one merchant and gone out of my way to chase down another for relocation to the bargain basement. After a while I get him relocated and am heading back past the first sunken merchant on my way back to my patrol area. I spy a bit of fire on the water I'm admiring the nice reflections on the water (thanks Leo!) from the flames (yes, I really am a pyromaniac) The closer I get, the more I'm wondering what it is that could still be burning an hour or two after the sinking. Oh well, admire some more reflections as I'm closing in on the flames... Then it's "what the he double hockey sticks?" time These guys must be noobs and not know how to properly operate the "Barbeque grill in the dinghy" mod Oh, well, they ended up getting what they deserve for playing with matches __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

09-10-07, 05:08 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yep, they ignored the 'No Smoking Within 500 Feet" signs. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-10-07, 05:10 PM	#3
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	burning oil and or fuel effect from ships on the surface of the ocean is what you are seeing Digital_Trucker from the zone's file I sent you. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 05:44 PM	#6
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	but that was actualy comming from the life boat? or the ship you sunk from earlier? I reduced the flood time for the fires on the ocean effect. But maybe I need to adjust it more. Something I did for Die Slowly and Redwine some new effect's but if it was the life boat then I have to fix that ASAP. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 06:38 PM	#7
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Yes, as far as I could tell it was coming from the lifeboat. The lifeboat was in the location of the sunken ship, so it could be a coincidence that the lifeboat was parked in the burning oil/fuel. After the lifeboat capsized and submerged the fire went almost down to nothing, but it was still there. At that point, I don't know whether the fire was burning fuel/oil or leftover from the lifeboat. I didn't mean for this to be anything that needed fixing, I just thought it was funny. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless, of course, they start showing up all over the place. I probably should remove the "barbeque grill in the dinghy mod" and see if it happens any more.:rotfl: __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

09-10-07, 05:26 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I have seen some burning lifeboats before myself. tater

09-10-07, 06:42 PM	#8
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	LMAO but I have to fix that Redwine Plans on doing another Die Slowly release with some of my effect's so I have to fix things like that. I am very glad you told me about it. Thanks! __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 07:02 PM	#10
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	LOL the Zone's file would be where it is exactly what Wernersab and Redwine base the main work in sinking effect's and so forth. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 07:05 PM	#11
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	OK, I'll double check but I'm almost positive I left the .zon files alone because I was using Werners "classic" version of Natural Sinking. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

09-10-07, 07:07 PM	#12
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	not .zon Zone's it is inside of the Data folder just like the scene.dat file is __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 07:16 PM	#13
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Oops, I got confused that happens a lot to me Seriously, no I didn't use the zones file from your mod because I thought it would cause a problem with Natural Sinking. I meant to go back and serioulsy compare the two with ExamDiff so I could decide how to combine the two, but I never have gotten around to it and hadn't noticed any major problems. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

09-10-07, 07:29 PM	#14
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	most people are using natural sinking mechanics these days so I took the zone file from Trigger Maru which is the light vs of Werner's work and built some effect's on top of his work. I didn't change a single line of his work as far as the sinking stuff and flooding of the compartment's nothing. Just added some new cargo's I created and new special effect's to go along with it. Only shared it with friends basicly because I didn't think werner would be happy about changing anything in there. His stuff is still in full effect just new FX and cargo added. Made a specific Engine Oil and Engine Fuel for the engine rooms and Fuel Bunkers that works seperatly from the normal Oil and Fuel cargo's the tankers carry to create a whole new set of FX's then added the missing Medium Weapon's set up for the war ship's and stuff for that. Added a total of like 10 new cargo's and FX's for them and the game. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-10-07, 08:02 PM	#15
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Okeydoke, I use the "Classic" version rather than the "Light" version so (if my memory serves me correctly, odds are pretty low) I was going to compare your file with Werner's light file to get the changes you made for the effects and cargo and make those changes to my "Classic" and I would have the best of all worlds. Somewhere in there, I forgot all about doing that (gonna write it down this time). Anyway, back to where this all started from (a little humor gone awry). I don't think the burning lifeboats are that much of a problem (just a little humorous). __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.