didnt check did i!!!

Mooncatt · 08-09-07, 08:30 PM

on my way past the north of scotland and i picked up a smallish convoy, plotted an intercept route and got into position.
no decent ships at all only one medium merch and the rest where either small merch or tramps. i could only see one dd so i thought id take the risk.
i hit one small merch and after that 3 other dds appeared. so i tried to make my way out and give it up as a bad job........but oh no..... depth under keel was only 60 mtrs. after about 6 hours of DC i finally died.
just goes to show how organised you have to be when setting up an attack, i would have made it if it wasnt for the shallows.
anyway 3rd patrol DiD.

Foghladh_mhara · 08-09-07, 08:52 PM

Ah yes the memories

I recall the happy times patrolling of Hartlepool in my Type II. Trying to get that escorted merchie safe in the knowledge that there was 11 metres of water under my keel. Now of course I dont set to sea in anything less than a VII and wont operate in waters shallower than 200m. Screw BdU!

blue3golf · 08-09-07, 08:54 PM

I am only that bold in the first couple years of the war, after that, I'm headed for open ocean

Brag · 08-09-07, 09:13 PM

Yup, our battlefield is three dimentional. You gotta check depth when choosing your ambush point.

I got caught in that vicinity. Fortunatelly my torpedoes missed and the escorts went off on their merry way.

Petsman · 08-10-07, 07:54 AM

Sometimes , when you have a sudden visual contact and dive for attack, its too late to ask for depth under keel because the DD will spot you. What do you do take the risk or go for a walk?

GoldenRivet · 08-10-07, 08:09 AM

On the few occasions i have been cought in shallow water i always came up to at least fire a last ditch spread at the DD in hopes of at least scoring a hit.

quick estimates of range and speed on the TDC screen are a nice ability to have - about a 3 to 5 degree spread with all bow tubes... magnetic fuses set at 4 meters depth.

if you score a hit and sink him you can run for the deeper water on the surface at flank speed hopefully before his friends start showing up.

Beats the alternative - and you are almost never going to escape a severe beating if you cant go below 60 meters.

aside from blowing ballast to periscope depth (you will have to order PD before passing 35 - 40 meters) and trying to shoot the DD your only hope is to take 4 to 6 hours of a severe beating before you finally die.

if there was only one escort, it might have been wise to engage him and sink him first. then turn you attention to sinking any amred merchants before surfacing and killing the rest with the deck gun.

Your best chances of making an attack succeed in really shallow water is to mount a surface attack at night from long range. make use of all bow tubes and come about hard and fire the stern tubes... im talking at ranges of about 2500 - 3500 meters. put the convoy behind you and RUN. you can still see if you score the hits or not from that far.

08-09-07, 08:30 PM	#1
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	didnt check did i!!! on my way past the north of scotland and i picked up a smallish convoy, plotted an intercept route and got into position. no decent ships at all only one medium merch and the rest where either small merch or tramps. i could only see one dd so i thought id take the risk. i hit one small merch and after that 3 other dds appeared. so i tried to make my way out and give it up as a bad job........but oh no..... depth under keel was only 60 mtrs. after about 6 hours of DC i finally died. just goes to show how organised you have to be when setting up an attack, i would have made it if it wasnt for the shallows. anyway 3rd patrol DiD. __________________

08-09-07, 08:52 PM	#2
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ah yes the memories I recall the happy times patrolling of Hartlepool in my Type II. Trying to get that escorted merchie safe in the knowledge that there was 11 metres of water under my keel. Now of course I dont set to sea in anything less than a VII and wont operate in waters shallower than 200m. Screw BdU! __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

08-09-07, 09:13 PM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yup, our battlefield is three dimentional. You gotta check depth when choosing your ambush point. I got caught in that vicinity. Fortunatelly my torpedoes missed and the escorts went off on their merry way. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

08-10-07, 07:54 AM	#5
Petsman Gunner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 91 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sometimes , when you have a sudden visual contact and dive for attack, its too late to ask for depth under keel because the DD will spot you. What do you do take the risk or go for a walk? __________________ Chances favour the prepared mind! GWX 3.0 SH3 Commander 3.2@94% Realism.

08-10-07, 08:09 AM	#6
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	On the few occasions i have been cought in shallow water i always came up to at least fire a last ditch spread at the DD in hopes of at least scoring a hit. quick estimates of range and speed on the TDC screen are a nice ability to have - about a 3 to 5 degree spread with all bow tubes... magnetic fuses set at 4 meters depth. if you score a hit and sink him you can run for the deeper water on the surface at flank speed hopefully before his friends start showing up. Beats the alternative - and you are almost never going to escape a severe beating if you cant go below 60 meters. aside from blowing ballast to periscope depth (you will have to order PD before passing 35 - 40 meters) and trying to shoot the DD your only hope is to take 4 to 6 hours of a severe beating before you finally die. if there was only one escort, it might have been wise to engage him and sink him first. then turn you attention to sinking any amred merchants before surfacing and killing the rest with the deck gun. Your best chances of making an attack succeed in really shallow water is to mount a surface attack at night from long range. make use of all bow tubes and come about hard and fire the stern tubes... im talking at ranges of about 2500 - 3500 meters. put the convoy behind you and RUN. you can still see if you score the hits or not from that far. __________________

08-09-07, 08:54 PM	#3
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am only that bold in the first couple years of the war, after that, I'm headed for open ocean