Q about GWX scope zoom

Hitman · 08-08-07, 08:47 AM

Have been reading through Das Buch (GWX Manual) but the only reference I found about the 10x zoom in the scope instead of the stock 6x was to mention that Kpt. Lehman was the author. Can someone tell me what the reason was to put that 10x zoom? Was it historical reason (Never seen that 10x zoom in german scopes until now) or simply for better gameplay? :hmm:

Thanks

Klaus_Doldinger · 08-08-07, 09:08 AM

I don´t remember where i read it, but the reason was that the 10x zoom compensate the fact that we players have a less clear and definited image than a real U-Boot commander.

danlisa · 08-08-07, 09:16 AM

Kpt, can probably answer better.

IIRC, the 10x Zoom was introduced:

Firstly due to the limited optical processes of SH3, i.e It's not the MkI Eye Ball.

Secondly, with the introduction of the Grey Contacts mod, meaning that players must now identify targets by checking the flags, it was decided that 10x was a 'tradeoff' for this added realism. To compensate, I think the only the UZO & Attack Scope goes to 10x, IIRC the Obs scope is unchanged.

Again, it comes down to the fact that we're not actually looking through a real scope.

Kpt. Lehmann · 08-08-07, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Kpt, can probably answer better.

IIRC, the 10x Zoom was introduced:

Firstly due to the limited optical processes of SH3, i.e It's not the MkI Eye Ball.

Secondly, with the introduction of the Grey Contacts mod, meaning that players must now identify targets by checking the flags, it was decided that 10x was a 'tradeoff' for this added realism. To compensate, I think the only the UZO & Attack Scope goes to 10x, IIRC the Obs scope is unchanged.

Again, it comes down to the fact that we're not actually looking through a real scope.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Danlisa is correct on all counts.

Hitman · 08-08-07, 12:34 PM

Aha, that makes sense

Reason I asked is that while doing my scope wiz-wheel for AOB measuring I was faced with the need of calibrating it for a certain zoom....6x would work for stock and all mods except GWX, while GWX would need a specific 10x calibration:hmm:

In fact I encountered the same problem that leaded to the 10x magnification: In real life kaleuns were told to use the low power 1.5x zoom to make range and AOB measuring due to the unreliabilty of 6x for that purpose. 6x was limited to target identificaction and evaluation (Tonnage, length...) purposes, so I finally left the calibration for the 1.5x zoom as in real life....but it seems too difficult to get accurate measurements with it

So I guess probably a 2x magnification for low power (Improved low power) and a 6x in high power could also have been a good solution:hmm:

Never mind, thanks for the explanation

08-08-07, 08:47 AM	#1
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Q about GWX scope zoom Have been reading through Das Buch (GWX Manual) but the only reference I found about the 10x zoom in the scope instead of the stock 6x was to mention that Kpt. Lehman was the author. Can someone tell me what the reason was to put that 10x zoom? Was it historical reason (Never seen that 10x zoom in german scopes until now) or simply for better gameplay? :hmm: Thanks __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

08-08-07, 09:08 AM	#2
Klaus_Doldinger Planesman Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Madrid, España Posts: 198 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I don´t remember where i read it, but the reason was that the 10x zoom compensate the fact that we players have a less clear and definited image than a real U-Boot commander. __________________ OL zS. Siegfried Rollmann, U 108 in WaW IV, 6th war patrol with GWX 3.0 Gold (111.829 BRT) Lt zS Klaus Doldinger (U 36), 4th war patrol with GWX 3.0 Gold (50.713 BRT) SH3 Cmdr 3.1 GWX 3.0 GWX 16 Km atmosphere GWX no medals on crew GWX open hatch GWX Saint Nazaire, Schleuse and units OLC GUI 1.2.7 Thomsen´s sound Torpedo damage final Rubini´s lifeboats and debris D.i.D.

08-08-07, 09:16 AM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Kpt, can probably answer better. IIRC, the 10x Zoom was introduced: Firstly due to the limited optical processes of SH3, i.e It's not the MkI Eye Ball. Secondly, with the introduction of the Grey Contacts mod, meaning that players must now identify targets by checking the flags, it was decided that 10x was a 'tradeoff' for this added realism. To compensate, I think the only the UZO & Attack Scope goes to 10x, IIRC the Obs scope is unchanged. Again, it comes down to the fact that we're not actually looking through a real scope. __________________

08-08-07, 12:34 PM	#5
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Aha, that makes sense Reason I asked is that while doing my scope wiz-wheel for AOB measuring I was faced with the need of calibrating it for a certain zoom....6x would work for stock and all mods except GWX, while GWX would need a specific 10x calibration:hmm: In fact I encountered the same problem that leaded to the 10x magnification: In real life kaleuns were told to use the low power 1.5x zoom to make range and AOB measuring due to the unreliabilty of 6x for that purpose. 6x was limited to target identificaction and evaluation (Tonnage, length...) purposes, so I finally left the calibration for the 1.5x zoom as in real life....but it seems too difficult to get accurate measurements with it So I guess probably a 2x magnification for low power (Improved low power) and a 6x in high power could also have been a good solution:hmm: Never mind, thanks for the explanation __________________ One day I will return to sea ...