When will US become enemy

ReM · 07-12-07, 04:26 PM

I sailed out of St Nazaire on November 16, 1941....after patrolling my assigned grid, AM 41 in foul weather I decided to go to the US coast in order to be the first drum beater after war is declared on december 12 1941.

After lurking off the coast of the US, and waiting for december 12 to arrive I find that the US is still very neutral....after waiting for about a week I finally sink a US tanker on december 18, the symbol for the sinking is green....aaaah a neutral kill...

Sick and tired of neutrals I make my way to the coast of Halifax, Canada...I find an enemy convoy with a Revenge class BB in it....I fire 4 eels and it goes down in a cloud of flames...I sunk Royal Oak

Anyway, does being close to the American coast on december 12 prevent the US from entering the war...or is there something strange going on? I have patrolled the US coast many times after december 12 and it has always been hostile afaik...

STEED · 07-12-07, 04:32 PM

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When will US become enemy

Not long after Pearl.

Simple answer JAN 1942

Brag · 07-12-07, 07:39 PM

You needed to wait a little bit longer, like 11 months and three weeks

ReM · 07-13-07, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

You needed to wait a little bit longer, like 11 months and three weeks

No way Brag....you are the one that is a year off:

Germany declared war on the US on december 11 1941, 4 days after Pearl Harbour, this is also correctly mentioned in SHIII: if you look under <F1> you can see that afer this date the US is an enemy of Germany..

The US should become enemies (and valid tonnage) instantly after this date, just like what happens to the UK and France after September 3 1939.....

Maraz · 07-13-07, 02:57 AM

Is this another bug?
Maybe friendlies and enemies are only checked by the game when the patrol starts? :hmm:

Maraz

STEED · 07-13-07, 05:05 AM

Sail over there in early Dec and kill them all.

abel29a · 07-13-07, 05:51 AM

I recently did a patrol to the US, set sail from Lorient on Dec 3, 1941. On 12 Dec the US did indeed turn hostile, and their ports turned red, so it should work even if you're mid-patrol at the moment.

Added bonus for doing an early Paukenschlag - lots of American ships steaming about with their navigation lights showing - easy pickings in the night

ReM · 07-13-07, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by abel29a

Added bonus for doing an early Paukenschlag - lots of American ships steaming about with their navigation lights showing - easy pickings in the night

That is exactly what I was looking for....

Pablo · 07-13-07, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ReM

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Originally Posted by abel29a

Added bonus for doing an early Paukenschlag - lots of American ships steaming about with their navigation lights showing - easy pickings in the night

That is exactly what I was looking for....

Hi!

If you are playing GWX then be warned that all those lighted ships should be neutral, though not all neutral ships are lighted. If you are playing stock Silent Hunter III then you will not find any lighted ships at all.

Pablo

abel29a · 07-13-07, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

If you are playing GWX then be warned that all those lighted ships should be neutral, though not all neutral ships are lighted. If you are playing stock Silent Hunter III then you will not find any lighted ships at all.

Pablo

Nope - they were American ships, lighted like neutrals are. After 12 Dec they are fair game and I got proper Allied tonnage for sinking them. I have had encounters on several occasions with lighted ships that turned out to be from a hostile nation. I guess if the ship is spawned prior to the nation declaring war, they are still using nav lights. As long as you double check the flag and that the country is in fact at war with you, there is no problem with sinking lighted ships

Pablo · 07-13-07, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by abel29a

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Originally Posted by Pablo

If you are playing GWX then be warned that all those lighted ships should be neutral, though not all neutral ships are lighted. If you are playing stock Silent Hunter III then you will not find any lighted ships at all.

Pablo

Nope - they were American ships, lighted like neutrals are. After 12 Dec they are fair game and I got proper Allied tonnage for sinking them. I have had encounters on several occasions with lighted ships that turned out to be from a hostile nation. I guess if the ship is spawned prior to the nation declaring war, they are still using nav lights. As long as you double check the flag and that the country is in fact at war with you, there is no problem with sinking lighted ships

Hi!

OK, submitted to the campaign team for evaluation. Thanks!

Pablo

07-12-07, 04:26 PM	#1
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	When will US become enemy I sailed out of St Nazaire on November 16, 1941....after patrolling my assigned grid, AM 41 in foul weather I decided to go to the US coast in order to be the first drum beater after war is declared on december 12 1941. After lurking off the coast of the US, and waiting for december 12 to arrive I find that the US is still very neutral....after waiting for about a week I finally sink a US tanker on december 18, the symbol for the sinking is green....aaaah a neutral kill... Sick and tired of neutrals I make my way to the coast of Halifax, Canada...I find an enemy convoy with a Revenge class BB in it....I fire 4 eels and it goes down in a cloud of flames...I sunk Royal Oak Anyway, does being close to the American coast on december 12 prevent the US from entering the war...or is there something strange going on? I have patrolled the US coast many times after december 12 and it has always been hostile afaik... __________________ Daddy cool

07-12-07, 07:39 PM	#3
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07-13-07, 02:57 AM	#5
Maraz Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is this another bug? Maybe friendlies and enemies are only checked by the game when the patrol starts? :hmm: Maraz __________________ First career: VIIB U-54 Current career (Black Sea): IID U-24 GWX 2.1, U-Jagd Tools, 100% difficulty, manual targeting, DiD,

07-13-07, 05:05 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Sail over there in early Dec and kill them all. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-13-07, 05:51 AM	#7
abel29a Helmsman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 101 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I recently did a patrol to the US, set sail from Lorient on Dec 3, 1941. On 12 Dec the US did indeed turn hostile, and their ports turned red, so it should work even if you're mid-patrol at the moment. Added bonus for doing an early Paukenschlag - lots of American ships steaming about with their navigation lights showing - easy pickings in the night __________________ "Sieben Tankern schlug die letze Stund, die U-Falle sank träger. Zwei Frachter liegen mit auf Grund, Versenkt vom Paukenschläger." - Reinhard Hardegen, U-123 GWX 1.03 and loving it....