GWX AI has Eagle Eyes!!

TwistedFemur · 06-26-07, 08:13 PM

Ok September 9, 1939 come across a HUGE convoy sailing west at 9Knts in sector BE61. The southernmost escort is just visible to me check the UZO and it give me a range of around 11.5 KM's its a hazy day around 10am so turn west and order flank to get ahead of the convoy next thing I see is splashes

WTF that escort SAW ME and is now charging hard, he had to have saw me because i didnt think they had radar in 1939 let alone flower class corvettes

Am I incorrect about the radar? or does GWX have eagle eyed escorts?

Packerton · 06-26-07, 08:25 PM

Tell me about it.

I was at 20 meters (no sign of my sub above water periscope was fully down) on my first patrol in 1939 on my new Career.

I got a merchant contact moveing slow, Moved to intercept then came up to periscope depth to launch my attack.....when I raised my scope the merchant was already in THE MIDDLE OF EVASIVE ACTION

I never figured out how he detected me.

Whether was Calm by the way so my con tower wasent sticking up.

red_one · 06-26-07, 10:22 PM

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

Reece · 06-26-07, 11:55 PM

Whilst moving your periscope leaves a wake, what I do is move within a few kilometers go silent, stop, wait a half minute, raise scope just out of water, get relative information, mark down details then lower scope to consider my options, I always try to make a 90 degree approach ahead of the convoy!

Penelope_Grey · 06-27-07, 03:02 AM

No but if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

At night however, its a different story... if it were me, Id have stayed under all day, following their general route on the map. Then at night, I'd have been up to the surface and at least 2 ships would be going to the bottom. That's how ya do it.

Canovaro · 06-27-07, 03:15 AM

Penelope is a very patient kaleuness

Reece · 06-27-07, 03:27 AM

Frauline kaleuness ... I say nothing else incase I'm demoted and end up a crew member on U-101!!!

06-27-07, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Frauline kaleuness ... I say nothing else incase I'm demoted and end up a crew member on U-101!!!

:hmm: :rotfl:

Now lets back to the topic

It depends on what mod you use - my recomendation is a 16 kilometer visibiliti mod, your watch crew will detect ships and air threats more effective and realistic eather.
In some situation especially when you have a lite or medium fog - you need to be carefulle and check visuall contact for your self, especially when you run the game in time compression
(P.S. My personal recomendation is to not run compresion higher that 128)
And offcorse - make shure you have two WE officers on board - also very important

Nichren · 06-27-07, 05:22 AM

Long time lurker first time poster...

What's the name of the 16KM visibility mod? I'm always getting jumped on by destroyers...I've only gone on three patrols with GWX however.

SmokinTep · 06-27-07, 05:42 AM

It's part of GWX. I use it and don't seem to have the problem of being detected early.

java`s revenge · 06-27-07, 05:59 AM

In the past i have downloaded a file (i am at work and don`t know the
name now) from a forum. That were the sensors altered into more realistic.

It stays dangerous to near convoys etc but now i can live with it.

I think sometimes that the gwx developer have looked the movi Das Boot
too much.

But GWX is a great mod but i use some other sensors.

TwistedFemur · 06-27-07, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_one

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

Normally I would agree with you but ....I was surfaced

TwistedFemur · 06-27-07, 06:26 AM

After reading all your posts I will install the 16km mod

Penelope_Grey · 06-27-07, 06:27 AM

Quote:

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

06-27-07, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Quote:

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

true

, remember that before a night surface convoy attack

06-26-07, 08:13 PM	#1
TwistedFemur Frogman Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	GWX AI has Eagle Eyes!! Ok September 9, 1939 come across a HUGE convoy sailing west at 9Knts in sector BE61. The southernmost escort is just visible to me check the UZO and it give me a range of around 11.5 KM's its a hazy day around 10am so turn west and order flank to get ahead of the convoy next thing I see is splashes WTF that escort SAW ME and is now charging hard, he had to have saw me because i didnt think they had radar in 1939 let alone flower class corvettes Am I incorrect about the radar? or does GWX have eagle eyed escorts? __________________ <a href="http://www.dewmocracy.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.dewmocracy.com/images/banner_distortion.jpg" border="0" alt="Vote for MTN DEW(R) Distortion(TM) - Dewmocracy.com" /></a>

06-26-07, 11:55 PM	#4
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,696 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Whilst moving your periscope leaves a wake, what I do is move within a few kilometers go silent, stop, wait a half minute, raise scope just out of water, get relative information, mark down details then lower scope to consider my options, I always try to make a 90 degree approach ahead of the convoy! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-27-07, 03:02 AM	#5
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No but if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem. At night however, its a different story... if it were me, Id have stayed under all day, following their general route on the map. Then at night, I'd have been up to the surface and at least 2 ships would be going to the bottom. That's how ya do it. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

06-27-07, 03:27 AM	#7
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,696 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Frauline kaleuness ... I say nothing else incase I'm demoted and end up a crew member on U-101!!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-27-07, 05:59 AM	#11
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	In the past i have downloaded a file (i am at work and don`t know the name now) from a forum. That were the sensors altered into more realistic. It stays dangerous to near convoys etc but now i can live with it. I think sometimes that the gwx developer have looked the movi Das Boot too much. But GWX is a great mod but i use some other sensors. __________________

06-26-07, 08:25 PM	#2
Packerton Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 398 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Tell me about it. I was at 20 meters (no sign of my sub above water periscope was fully down) on my first patrol in 1939 on my new Career. I got a merchant contact moveing slow, Moved to intercept then came up to periscope depth to launch my attack.....when I raised my scope the merchant was already in THE MIDDLE OF EVASIVE ACTION I never figured out how he detected me. Whether was Calm by the way so my con tower wasent sticking up.

06-26-07, 10:22 PM	#3
red_one Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 14 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

06-27-07, 03:15 AM	#6
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Penelope is a very patient kaleuness

06-27-07, 05:22 AM	#9
Nichren Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Long time lurker first time poster... What's the name of the 16KM visibility mod? I'm always getting jumped on by destroyers...I've only gone on three patrols with GWX however.

06-27-07, 05:42 AM	#10
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's part of GWX. I use it and don't seem to have the problem of being detected early.

06-27-07, 06:26 AM	#13
TwistedFemur Frogman Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	After reading all your posts I will install the 16km mod __________________ <a href="http://www.dewmocracy.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.dewmocracy.com/images/banner_distortion.jpg" border="0" alt="Vote for MTN DEW(R) Distortion(TM) - Dewmocracy.com" /></a>