I hate Tramp Steamers!

headcase · 05-20-07, 09:21 PM

Had a good patrol going, so I decided what the hooey. Matched course and speed 1200m out, surfaced, and on wounderfully flat seas opened up with my 105. Forty rounds and a day later the sleaze still wants to stay afloat!

C3's don't take that much abuse! All in all it wasn't a bad run Bagged a Fiji, couple Tribals a Troopship, and whatnot for A bit over 65KT.

Just can't see myself wasting ordanance on one of those minnows again. Uncle Don wants real tonnage, and don't pay me to do act like animal control and chase the pests.

Thank you for your time, and Good Hunting Gentelmen.

GoldenRivet · 05-20-07, 09:40 PM

were you hitting her under the waterline?

thise little piggies can take a lot of damage to the hull and wheel house and stay afloat.

assuming you werent...

dont zoom in on the target, close to within a few hundred meters and place the deck gun cross hairs just about a meter under the waterline and blast away. you should see a water splash followed by an impact sound.

I managed to split one of those little minnows in half the other night with just 5 rounds.
IIRC the fuel tank is just ahead of the wheel house/ bridge.

headcase · 05-20-07, 11:07 PM

I figger I just wasn't hittn' the sweet spot just right. Just makes me agro when I get splashes, set fires, and no cookie.

GoldenRivet · 05-20-07, 11:09 PM

what are you using

strait SH3 vanilla?

GWX?

any mods? i know that each mod makes some major changes to ship sinking times. as well as how each ship takes damage

headcase · 05-20-07, 11:28 PM

GW 1.01 For some reason the infernal machine don't want to update it further. But it's about a year past time to build a new one too. My bet is I mucked it up somehow. Still not gonna mess with another.

bigboywooly · 05-20-07, 11:33 PM

Yeah they were a nightmare to sink in GW1.1

You cannot update GW to GWX
Tis a new mod completely and needs a fresh patched to 1.4 install of SH3

GoldenRivet · 05-20-07, 11:47 PM

yeah dump SH3 all around and reinstall SH3 vanilla - patch it to 1.4 and get GWX not GW

headcase · 05-21-07, 12:02 AM

Cool cats. Just let me sink one more Tanker...

Corsair · 05-21-07, 04:35 AM

I found it to be very variable from one tramp to the other. I remember sinking one at rather long distance with 2 88mm shells, average is around 20... (I let my crew do the shooting)

Brag · 05-21-07, 06:17 AM

If you have a gunnery qualified officer and a gunnery petty officer, the effect of the deck gun will be fantastic. The other night sank a fast liner from 6,000 meters with 6 shots. The best I had hoped was to get the bugger's attention and slow down with zig zags.

flakmonkey · 05-21-07, 07:01 AM

i fired 7 torpedos at a tramp steamer the other day and she still didnt go down!
every one was a good solid hit and yet after waiting 48hrs for her to sink.. nothing, darn thing must have been full of sponges to stay afloat or something

Jimbuna · 05-21-07, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

i fired 7 torpedos at a tramp steamer the other day and she still didnt go down!
every one was a good solid hit and yet after waiting 48hrs for her to sink.. nothing, darn thing must have been full of sponges to stay afloat or something

If you'd boardrd her before she sank (and you clearly had time) and checked the cargo manifest you would have probably found she was carrying cork

Heibges · 05-21-07, 03:20 PM

Yep. If you launch one torpedo and miss, you waste a lot of time getting back into positon. And because they are so short, they are pretty easy to miss.

But I also feel like I am wasting a torpedo if I launch a spread of 2.

And I rarely see them cruising along in good weather so I can use the deckgun.

Still, this does add to the tactical decision making process.

05-20-07, 09:21 PM	#1
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I hate Tramp Steamers! Had a good patrol going, so I decided what the hooey. Matched course and speed 1200m out, surfaced, and on wounderfully flat seas opened up with my 105. Forty rounds and a day later the sleaze still wants to stay afloat! C3's don't take that much abuse! All in all it wasn't a bad run Bagged a Fiji, couple Tribals a Troopship, and whatnot for A bit over 65KT. Just can't see myself wasting ordanance on one of those minnows again. Uncle Don wants real tonnage, and don't pay me to do act like animal control and chase the pests. Thank you for your time, and Good Hunting Gentelmen. __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

05-20-07, 09:40 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	were you hitting her under the waterline? thise little piggies can take a lot of damage to the hull and wheel house and stay afloat. assuming you werent... dont zoom in on the target, close to within a few hundred meters and place the deck gun cross hairs just about a meter under the waterline and blast away. you should see a water splash followed by an impact sound. I managed to split one of those little minnows in half the other night with just 5 rounds. IIRC the fuel tank is just ahead of the wheel house/ bridge. __________________

05-20-07, 11:07 PM	#3
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Hammered the waterline. I figger I just wasn't hittn' the sweet spot just right. Just makes me agro when I get splashes, set fires, and no cookie. __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

05-20-07, 11:09 PM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	what are you using strait SH3 vanilla? GWX? any mods? i know that each mod makes some major changes to ship sinking times. as well as how each ship takes damage __________________

05-20-07, 11:28 PM	#5
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	GW 1.01 For some reason the infernal machine don't want to update it further. But it's about a year past time to build a new one too. My bet is I mucked it up somehow. Still not gonna mess with another. __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

05-20-07, 11:33 PM	#6
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Yeah they were a nightmare to sink in GW1.1 You cannot update GW to GWX Tis a new mod completely and needs a fresh patched to 1.4 install of SH3 __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-20-07, 11:47 PM	#7
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	yeah dump SH3 all around and reinstall SH3 vanilla - patch it to 1.4 and get GWX not GW __________________

05-21-07, 12:02 AM	#8
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Cool cats. Just let me sink one more Tanker... __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

05-21-07, 04:35 AM	#9
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I found it to be very variable from one tramp to the other. I remember sinking one at rather long distance with 2 88mm shells, average is around 20... (I let my crew do the shooting) __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

05-21-07, 06:17 AM	#10
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	If you have a gunnery qualified officer and a gunnery petty officer, the effect of the deck gun will be fantastic. The other night sank a fast liner from 6,000 meters with 6 shots. The best I had hoped was to get the bugger's attention and slow down with zig zags. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-21-07, 07:01 AM	#11
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	i fired 7 torpedos at a tramp steamer the other day and she still didnt go down! every one was a good solid hit and yet after waiting 48hrs for her to sink.. nothing, darn thing must have been full of sponges to stay afloat or something

05-21-07, 03:20 PM	#13
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yep. If you launch one torpedo and miss, you waste a lot of time getting back into positon. And because they are so short, they are pretty easy to miss. But I also feel like I am wasting a torpedo if I launch a spread of 2. And I rarely see them cruising along in good weather so I can use the deckgun. Still, this does add to the tactical decision making process. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/