Carriers/dynamic campaign

High Command · 04-04-07, 08:16 AM

Somethings very wrang...

I have Sunk 4 times the amount of Hiryu Class carriers the Japanese ever buildt????

lol how is this possible.. I have sunk Carriers that dosnt exist

looooooooooooooooool - what is this...??

High Command · 04-04-07, 08:32 AM

NOT GOOD

Quillan · 04-04-07, 08:34 AM

This is technically not a bug. It's just how the dynamic campaign scripting works. SH3 did the same thing. Basically, the campaign script file will have a spawn point for a ship, convoy, or task force. It has a random chance of appearing every so often. When it does appear, each ship in the group has a chance of appearing and a list of possible types it could be. Because of this, it's quite possible for there to be an infinite number of Yamato class battleships or Hiryu class carriers over the course of the war. The game doesn't keep track of how many are in existance at any given moment, nor does it subtract the number sunk from the historical total.

High Command · 04-04-07, 08:38 AM

Well so much for being a simulation.

Here i sit with a huge list and photos of Japanese ships, and write them off one by one, and thay arnt evan sunk, after i sink them!!!

mookiemookie · 04-04-07, 08:41 AM

Thems the haps, bub. It happened in SH3 as well and Quillian nailed it in his explanation.

Not such a big deal, really.

elanaiba · 04-04-07, 08:42 AM

But, I'd like to point out, that the Hiryu won't appear after it was sunk "in real life". And, its supposed to stand in for other early war classes that were not modelled.

JFL1 · 04-04-07, 08:44 AM

I may be wrong, but shouldn't the concept of "dynamic campaign" take into account the fact that a carrier or any other capital ship is indeed sunk?

If I have no direct impact on the conflict around me, how can I call this a dynamic campaign? I understand that we cannot alter history. So we should not call this a "dynamic campaign" but more a "somewhat reanacted campaign".

Would have been good to have an option whereby you could choose to stick to history or to have a real impact on it.

PeriscopeDepth · 04-04-07, 08:44 AM

I don't think they model sanitary tank blowing either. False marketing at its finest, SH4 is really a game you should be putting quarters in. Blast you Ubisoft Romania!

PD

High Command · 04-04-07, 08:46 AM

Its sad.

I see here, i have sunk TWISE the amount of total Carriers Japan had intill March 1941.

Thay just semes to have some form for UNLIMITED Storage of Carriers.

Not to mantion, that a singel sub isnt supose to be able to faind ALL the Japanese Carriers...
Way to many and way to easy to faind them..

PeriscopeDepth · 04-04-07, 08:52 AM

Dude, every Subsim that's ever been made before has been like this. And I still enjoy playing them. And I still don't feel like I need to put multiple sad smiley faces in my posts. If you really don't want to sink more carriers or whatever than actually existed....Well, don't. After you scratch actual number of a given class off the IJN fleet roster, just don't sink any more of that given class if you happen to encounter them.

PD

Seadogs · 04-04-07, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

I don't think they model sanitary tank blowing either. False marketing at its finest, SH4 is really a game you should be putting quarters in. Blast you Ubisoft Romania!

PD

That really bugs me too. SWIMMER IN THE WATER! PUMP THE CHT!

toby66 · 04-04-07, 08:57 AM

Cool down. It's obvious that the campaign has to have some kind of scripting. It would be nice if a function deleted a sunken ship from the campaign layer. But it doesn't. That's not a bug nor a big mistake. Perhaps a moddder can give us this feature sooner or later. If not, SHIV is still a lot of fun IF you want it to be.

The world isn't perfekt, this game isn't. Chill.

Seeadler · 04-04-07, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFL1

I may be wrong, but shouldn't the concept of "dynamic campaign" take into account the fact that a carrier or any other capital ship is indeed sunk?

Yes, f.e. Falcon 3.0 introduced a real dynamic campaign where the success of each individual employment affected the situation for the following employment.

AVGWarhawk · 04-04-07, 09:01 AM

It is a feature

ReallyDedPoet · 04-04-07, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

But, I'd like to point out, that the Hiryu won't appear after it was sunk "in real life".

This isn't real life. Play more and you will come to enjoy the Dynamic Campaign for what it is

04-04-07, 08:16 AM	#1
High Command Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Carriers/dynamic campaign Somethings very wrang... I have Sunk 4 times the amount of Hiryu Class carriers the Japanese ever buildt???? lol how is this possible.. I have sunk Carriers that dosnt exist looooooooooooooooool - what is this...??

04-04-07, 08:34 AM	#3
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This is technically not a bug. It's just how the dynamic campaign scripting works. SH3 did the same thing. Basically, the campaign script file will have a spawn point for a ship, convoy, or task force. It has a random chance of appearing every so often. When it does appear, each ship in the group has a chance of appearing and a list of possible types it could be. Because of this, it's quite possible for there to be an infinite number of Yamato class battleships or Hiryu class carriers over the course of the war. The game doesn't keep track of how many are in existance at any given moment, nor does it subtract the number sunk from the historical total. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-04-07, 08:41 AM	#5
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Thems the haps, bub. It happened in SH3 as well and Quillian nailed it in his explanation. Not such a big deal, really. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

04-04-07, 08:57 AM	#12
toby66 A-ganger Join Date: May 2005 Location: navis longa Posts: 73 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Cool down. It's obvious that the campaign has to have some kind of scripting. It would be nice if a function deleted a sunken ship from the campaign layer. But it doesn't. That's not a bug nor a big mistake. Perhaps a moddder can give us this feature sooner or later. If not, SHIV is still a lot of fun IF you want it to be. The world isn't perfekt, this game isn't. Chill. __________________

04-04-07, 09:01 AM	#14
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It is a feature __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-04-07, 08:32 AM	#2
High Command Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	NOT GOOD

04-04-07, 08:38 AM	#4
High Command Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well so much for being a simulation. Here i sit with a huge list and photos of Japanese ships, and write them off one by one, and thay arnt evan sunk, after i sink them!!!

04-04-07, 08:42 AM	#6
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	But, I'd like to point out, that the Hiryu won't appear after it was sunk "in real life". And, its supposed to stand in for other early war classes that were not modelled.

04-04-07, 08:44 AM	#7
JFL1 Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montreal (Quebec) Posts: 44 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I may be wrong, but shouldn't the concept of "dynamic campaign" take into account the fact that a carrier or any other capital ship is indeed sunk? If I have no direct impact on the conflict around me, how can I call this a dynamic campaign? I understand that we cannot alter history. So we should not call this a "dynamic campaign" but more a "somewhat reanacted campaign". Would have been good to have an option whereby you could choose to stick to history or to have a real impact on it.

04-04-07, 08:44 AM	#8
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I don't think they model sanitary tank blowing either. False marketing at its finest, SH4 is really a game you should be putting quarters in. Blast you Ubisoft Romania! PD

04-04-07, 08:46 AM	#9
High Command Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Its sad. I see here, i have sunk TWISE the amount of total Carriers Japan had intill March 1941. Thay just semes to have some form for UNLIMITED Storage of Carriers. Not to mantion, that a singel sub isnt supose to be able to faind ALL the Japanese Carriers... Way to many and way to easy to faind them..

04-04-07, 08:52 AM	#10
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Dude, every Subsim that's ever been made before has been like this. And I still enjoy playing them. And I still don't feel like I need to put multiple sad smiley faces in my posts. If you really don't want to sink more carriers or whatever than actually existed....Well, don't. After you scratch actual number of a given class off the IJN fleet roster, just don't sink any more of that given class if you happen to encounter them. PD